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I guess I’m lucky enough to have never had the “good” Escudo so I don’t know what I’m missing. While I did appreciate the new tin I had bought this year, I had a little trouble wondering why so many like it better than LBF. I have trouble justifying the “new” Escudo cost per tin. Oz for Oz LBF wins hands down for me, and it’s affordable to buy in bulk to store and age with the 1.5 lb boxes. I’m buying a box if it each year to set aside for years down the road.
My tin is this one:
After looking at @donjgiles's tin up there, I'll take the STG stuff over the A&CP's even if it's inferior, just because it doesn't have any darn warnings on the label!
After looking at @donjgiles's tin up there, I'll take the STG stuff over the A&CP's even if it's inferior, just because it doesn't have any darn warnings on the label!
Nah................
THIS is the STUFF!.......................
Here's a great write up that Kevin did a few years ago...........
I Smoked 50+ Year Old Escudo, Nah, Nah, Nah, Nah, Nah, Nah
Kevin Godbee Don’t hate me because I smoked 50+ year old Escudo. It was awesome. It all started when finally, at the last minute, I convinced E. Roberts (a.k.a. "RomeoWood") to come to the Chicago pipe show. He’s a connoisseur of many fine things and has written several articles for this...
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My tin from 2019 seems pretty decent. Then again Ive never smoked vintage Escudo. Its certainly better than the LBF from the same year.
Like you, I really can't tell what veteran smokers are talking/complaining about: my STG tin was my first Escudo experience and it was OK. I read that Escudo was the International Prototype Metre all other VaPers are to be rated by. They never said which version of said Escudo we should use, though.
I'm just wondering when the change took place. My labels say Scandinavian Tobacco but they do seem to have aged for the better in the 6 years I've had them. We'll see how they ultimately turn out
[ So for future reference as far as Vapers go I might be better of buying St James by S&G or Solani 633 ]
To that I would add the Synjeco twists Grenodd and Holker which are absolutely great. They are made by GH for Synjeco and available only through Synjeco but Daniel is a great guy to deal with.
To that I would add the Synjeco twists Grenodd and Holker which are absolutely great. They are made by GH for Synjeco and available only through Synjeco but Daniel is a great guy to deal with.
If you asked this question today, you would still get people who would recommend it, because they've seen people recommend it for decades.
I was one of those asked on another forum to join in compiling a list of gold standard blends of different genres. I included Escudo at that time, though I was still smoking my A & C Petersen stash while letting the STG stuff age. Had I known then what I know now, I would have argued against including Escudo in any list of gold standards.
A number of present day blends are coasting on the reputations they made in earlier times, made by different manufacturers, using different components. Balkan Sobranie would be another example. Take a famous name, stick it on a tin of "whatsis" and milk it for profit.
Groupthink is a good term to use. It's how a lot of us function in a lot of different areas to a greater or lesser extent. Why would pipes and tobacco be any different?
New smokers don't know what old versions, the versions that garnered all that adulation, tasted like. They only have what's available now as a reference. Plus, they're in the process of developing their pallets to the extent they are able.
So people like me, long time smokers who know what these blends were, are going to have a different take than someone with no personal experience of older versions.
Reminds me of the saying "Where ignorance is bliss, tis folly to be wise".
I just scanned through STG's list of pipe tobaccos. They've really fucked up quite a few ironical tobaccos. Erinmore being the one that makes me want to wipe it off the face of the earth. I hope reps from the tobacco companies scan these sites occasionally, so they'll see...
Cracked a tin of Escudo (2018) this morning and I'm such an idiot, I thought it was really good. Hopefully I stay ignorant long enough to enjoy my remaining tins.
yeah I mean it's not like they sell a ton of the stuff as is. If that's the mark of idiocy then we're all screwed so just enjoy whatever tins you can because by god soon they'll be 50 percent pebbles 25 percent unidentifiable and less then 25 percent tobacco leaf.
I just looked, and all my Escudo's are 2014 made by STG.
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