China, India and Africa are where the aspirational market for tobacco is still growing
My Prediction Of Our Future.
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I have exactly as much tobacco as I need.
How do I know, how does anyone know?
You can be young and healthy and have a sizable stash, get up one morning to head to the stop-n-rob, and whammo..... you get in an accident and die. See, you had enough.
You be old with a stash of four tubs of OTC, go to the bathroom and die on the shitter, you had enough.
It’s all relative and worms don’t give a shit.
How do I know, how does anyone know?
You can be young and healthy and have a sizable stash, get up one morning to head to the stop-n-rob, and whammo..... you get in an accident and die. See, you had enough.
You be old with a stash of four tubs of OTC, go to the bathroom and die on the shitter, you had enough.
It’s all relative and worms don’t give a shit.
Yes, one tiny "Ma & Pa" company decides to retire. That hardly warrents a concern for the future of tobacco availability. Like I said, people get excited for nothing in here.
Doesn't matter what they outlaw or tax out of existence; if there's a demand, the black market will provide it. And in the case of tobacco, I'll be a customer of this guy or his equivalent.
I agree. As long as people are interested in smoking, tobacco isn't going away. Prohibition doesn't work. If anything it's counterproductive.
The QUALITY of what's available will change, it already is happening, but people acclimate to what's available.
Right, what we're looking at is likely the end of mass distribution of the majority of tobacco blends across the U.S.
It won't matter if the blends are in production after distributors abandon the market.
Quality is subjective too though and could even be things they use to put on the tobacco that they no longer do. A number of weeks ago I watched an interview with Per Jensen where a specific flavor was brought up on old Mac Baren tobacco and what's different between then and now. I'm grossly paraphrasing, but in general that specific flavor mentioned was because of Coumarin they used to process the tobacco with that gave a particular sweetness. That chemical became banned eventually because it's kind of not good for you. So in that case, the change wasn't a quality difference from the leaf standpoint but something that showed to be toxic and banned from use.
For as much as K&K I have cellared, they ought too kick me back a few grand minimum.
Yes, there's quite a bit of changes going on with additives, and that's not necessarily a bad thing. Consider that Warhorse used to be topped with belladonna. No wonder it packed such a punch.
The change is going to be more about the leaf itself. There's been some noticeable instances of blends being altered to use less expensive ingredients in the last couple of years, affecting blends across a number of brands. Cutting down the percentage of Red Virginia, replacing Perique with Dark Fired, etc, is becoming more noticeable, really altering the flavor profile.
If you were used to a favored blend tasting a certain way, aging a certain way, forget about it. But for people just getting familiar with blends, these versions will be what they imprint on.
.Has been happening since the U.K. switched to a VAT tax regime in anticipation of joining the EU and leaf stored in bonded warehouses where it could age suddenly became a tax liability.
Metal detecting in Illinois is prohibited in all Forrest preserves and most parks. What that boils down to is unless you’re on private property you’re likely breaking the law.
I guess they don't want anyone messing up the landscaping with digs. Makes sense in a way.
I agree, but the land scaping isn’t much to look at most places around here. They should worry about the pot holes if they are concerned about appearances.
Yeah I wouldn’t call it landscaping. It’s just natural growth. It’s not like finely manicured anything. It’ll return to what it was before the dig in a year or two. It’s not like there’re tons of metal detectives, is that what you call yourselves? I did it a bit when I was a kid, had a good time.
I've been rolling (stuffing) my own since 2015. Tubes and tobacco haven't gone up much since I started, maybe one or two percent. I can easily get over two cartons from a one pound bag of tobacco. I did the math a few years ago, and was paying about $11-$12 per carton.
Unlike reloading, it's a brainless process that requires very little thought or attention. I crank out 5 packs in a little over an hour, while watching the boob tube.
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