Minneapolis Pipe Shop Looted

[Simmerdown☕️]

There seems to have been quite a few who took advantage of protests as a cover for committing criminal acts, some of it highly organized. It's important to make a distinction between those exercising their right to express legitimate concerns and criminals who take advantage of it as a cover for their misdeeds.

Agreed...hence the distinction mentioned between rioters & protesters in my comment.️

 

[Chasing Embers]

Why am I not surprised that pipe smokers are almost exclusively conservatives?

It's not like Leftists are against tobacco per se, many of them suck down cigarettes like water.

I gave up on both sides years ago.

 

[Simmerdown☕️]

Why am I not surprised that pipe smokers are almost exclusively conservatives?

It's not like Leftists are against tobacco per se, many of them suck down cigarettes like water.

Somewhat a generalization, I believe as I find it difficult to discern the political leanings of our fellow pipe smokers. We have a rule as to not jump into that pool here. True, that some tap dance around it, but most of our folks here keep their own Counsel when it comes to which side of the aisle they lean.️?

 

[BROBS]

Somewhat a generalization, I believe as I find it difficult to discern the political leanings of our fellow pipe smokers. We have a rule as to not jump into that pool here. True, that some tap dance around it, but most of our folks here keep their own Counsel when it comes to which side of the aisle they lean.?

Haha if anything I’d say it’s opposite of Sincerely’s observation. It’s just the conservatives that are loudmouths about it. ?

if someone keeps their mouth shut politically I’m not sure how you are guessing they are a conservative.

Also there are no real conservatives anymore so his observation is doubly wrong.

 

[BROBS]

Such an astute observation.

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ME AND BLUEGRASSBRIAN ARE THE MOST CONSERVATIVE PEOPLE ON THE PLANET

 

[puff_not_snuff]

I hope these thugs didn’t hit Nat Sherman’s after...

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[puff_not_snuff]

This year what's happening to small businesses, the backbone of America, is really a shame.

Well small businesses should be the backbone of America but Amazon and the general public’s lack of loyalty broke its back long ago...

 

[brian64]

There seems to have been quite a few who took advantage of protests as a cover for committing criminal acts, some of it highly organized. It's important to make a distinction between those exercising their right to express legitimate concerns and criminals who take advantage of it as a cover for their misdeeds.

True...it is an important distinction indeed between the peaceful protesters and the random criminals using the protests as an excuse.

But then there is the "highly organized" aspect as you say of some (I would say most) of the criminality, which is the most concerning. And this represents a third faction in all of this...a faction that uses violence and destruction as a form of protest...or, more accurately, as a means of furthering a political/social agenda...terrorists in other words.

 

[brian64]

Also there are no real conservatives anymore so his observation is doubly wrong.

There are no real liberals either.

 

[sablebrush52]

But then there is the "highly organized" aspect as you say of some (I would say most) of the criminality, which is the most concerning. And this represents a third faction in all of this...a faction that uses violence and destruction as a form of protest...or, more accurately, as a means of furthering a political/social agenda...terrorists in other words.

There are undoubtedly some of those as well, but what HAS turned up are cases of well planned break-ins with no political overtones, and a weird one in LA where some goofballs in black face were caught smashing windows in the Fairfax district.

 

[brian64]

There are undoubtedly some of those as well, but what HAS turned up are cases of well planned break-ins with no political overtones, and a weird one in LA where some goofballs in black face were caught smashing windows in the Fairfax district.

Yes, there are agent provocateurs as well...a fourth element in all of this.

But we have a known, organized group: "antifa"...no mystery there.

And they are exactly what they claim to be against: fascists.

 

[Worknman]

And they are exactly what they claim to be against: fascists.

They're the far left version of fascists. Its interesting that most of the suppression of opposition,censorship of differing political opinions and outright chaos is coming from the left. Not to mention all the tobacco regulation bills mostly have a "D" attached to them. True liberals are becoming rare it seems which is rather unfortunate.

 

[sablebrush52]

But we have a known, organized group: "antifa"...no mystery there.

Antifa, nasty bunch, except that there's no documentation to point to their involvement to any great extent as they are apparently too poorly organized to mount such an effort. But they'll do as a popular boogy man.

 

[tbradsim1]

This is as political as I get, Come Election Day the Americans who are horrified by this lawlessness will make their voices heard!

 

[puff_not_snuff]

Antifa, nasty bunch, except that there's no documentation to point to their involvement to any great extent as they are apparently too poorly organized to mount such an effort. But they'll do as a popular boogy man.

You sure it wasn’t sacco and vanzetti?

 

[brian64]

Antifa, nasty bunch, except that there's no documentation to point to their involvement to any great extent as they are apparently too poorly organized to mount such an effort. But they'll do as a popular boogy man.

Well, I'll just agree to disagree there, because IMO, they are rather well organized and well funded...but I won't descend any further down that rabbit hole here. (And I would just add, they aren't the only such group out there either).

 

[BROBS]

Yes, there are agent provocateurs as well...a fourth element in all of this.

But we have a known, organized group: "antifa"...no mystery there.

And they are exactly what they claim to be against: fascists.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH OK CHARLIE KIRK

antifa is a madeup scapegoat for coattail conservatives.

 

[BROBS]

Well, I'll just agree to disagree there, because IMO, they are rather well organized and well funded...but I won't descend any further down that rabbit hole here. (And I would just add, they aren't the only such group out there either).

HAHAHAHAHA AND MY PROOF WAS FROM A GUY WHO SAID SO

man, you could conspiracy any theory.

 

[BROBS]

@brian64 i can only hope your face to head ratio is of a normal proportion, unlike your apparent hero Charlie Kirk.

 

[sablebrush52]

They're the far left version of fascists. Its interesting that most of the suppression of opposition,censorship of differing political opinions and outright chaos is coming from the left. Not to mention all the tobacco regulation bills mostly have a "D" attached to them. True liberals are becoming rare it seems which is rather unfortunate.

The far anything is not about freedom. They're all about conformity to some made up ideology. But they all like to use the word "freedom" as a smoke screen.