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toobfreak

Lifer
Dec 19, 2016
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I have two Collibri's worth $89 and $150 when I bought them new years ago. One is even a soft flame with flint. Still use matches. WOOD matches. At that, I let the match burn for 2-3 seconds. But I certainly understand those who use lighters. Carrying a box of kitchen matches is a bitch and lighting them outside even trickier. But I'm mainly an indoor smoker with everything beside my easy chair.

 

didache

Can't Leave
Feb 11, 2017
480
10
London, England
Here's a thought: there is something about pipe smoking that reflects the natural human love of ritual. It isn't just the smoking, no matter how pleasurable. It's also about the routine and ritual of it all: the time spent filling the pipe carefully, tamping it down, having a little draw on it to make sure it draws well, doing a charring light ... you get the idea! If we didn't love the ritual we'd just smoke cigs and be done with it.
To me, the lighting is part of the ritual too in almost a zen way. The striking of the match, allowing the first flare to die down and the sulphur to burn off, the slow and lazy circular way you pass the flame over the tobacco.
Sorry, but I just don't get that from a plastic butane lighter! Use them if you wish but it's the old fashioned wooden match way for me!
Mike

 

jpmcwjr

Moderator
Staff member
May 12, 2015
24,706
27,302
Carmel Valley, CA
Mike- Absolutely. Just that some things that a few insist has to be done, while fine for them, is unnecessary for others to enjoy their ritual, or lack thereof!

 
Jul 28, 2016
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for initial charring light I most exclusively do use matches and then finishing the process with Bic or Old Boy type china replica lighter,I always did like matches because of better flame control , primarly I'm inside smoker, although now I do own a brass Zippo with pipe insert,just in case, this surely wont let me down if smoking outdoors,

 

aimlesswanderer

Starting to Get Obsessed
Jun 25, 2016
211
2
I don't mind using a butane lighter (soft flame, not jet) for relights, but prefer to get things rolling with matches (weather conditions permitting)

 

kwilliams40

Might Stick Around
Nov 17, 2013
85
4
NY
I also got these Maya Matches after a recommendation on a Facebook pipe group. They are made om cactus neefles instead of wood.


 

wlrountree

Starting to Get Obsessed
Jan 4, 2015
139
3
I prefer the added taste of the zippo over anything for all blends that are not aros. Do like to light aros with matches but find they char my rims worse than my zippo

 

jpmcwjr

Moderator
Staff member
May 12, 2015
24,706
27,302
Carmel Valley, CA
Just hold the flame further away from the rim and draw the tip (only) to near the tobacco. The super heated air beyond the tip is plenty to ignite reasonably dry tobacco.

 

twoonefive

Starting to Get Obsessed
Jan 6, 2014
293
696
Willow Grove, PA
pipesandpens.com
I use the Maya matches as well and if you unroll the stick it looks like they are made of paper. Not sure if this is a recent change or not but I don't think they use cacctus quills. Regardless they are very fine matches with a coat of wax on the stick. They burn very slow and at a low heat compared to other methods.

 

hextor

Part of the Furniture Now
Sep 20, 2015
642
6
maya for me!! they are super cheap and they work pretty good!!! I have also used dried cedar wood sticks, that seems to work pretty good too, some old school cigar smoker thought me that one, have yall tried the cedar wood sticks?

 

snowyowl

Part of the Furniture Now
Oct 21, 2015
885
22
While many jokes might be made about old farts and matches... let me provide an even older joke:
Got a match?

Not since Superman died.

 

ophiuchus

Lifer
Mar 25, 2016
1,558
2,055
Got a match?

Not since Superman died.

8O

:rofl:
Though I keep a pipe Zippo around for relights, I usually start things up with a Diamond Strike-Anywhere match.
Boy, Diamond matches are terrible now. I miss the old Ohio Blue Tips from 20-30 years ago ...

 

colorduke

Part of the Furniture Now
Mar 5, 2011
775
1
I use matches when I'm at home,when I'm out and about its the Zippo.I also like to watch Matches860.

 

addamsruspipe

Part of the Furniture Now
Dec 4, 2016
790
5,364
55
Albuquerque, NM
I'm still a new compared to most of you, but after reading this thread I think I am going to pick up some matches and give them a try. Anything that might improve my smoke is worth trying.

 

PlanxtyPipes

Starting to Get Obsessed
Mar 6, 2013
222
2
I've always used matches since I started smoking a pipe around 2006. I've never had much luck with lighters and I prefer the control-ability and the flame of a match. That said, I've always wanted to try an Old Boy style lighter. I'm sure I'll get one eventually but I haven't yet ponied up the money for one, as matches seem to work just fine for now.

 

ravkesef

Lifer
Aug 10, 2010
2,923
9,458
82
Cheshire, CT
Let's start by positing a couple of things: First: the lower the temperature, the less likely it is to scorch the wood or the tobacco. For that reason, a torch lighter should never be used because the fuel temperature is simply way too high. Second, we don't want a fuel to impart a chemical taste/smell to the tobacco. For that reason, paper matches should be shunned because the matches themselves are impregnated with a chemical substance to keep them from burning too rapidly and singeing your fingers. That said, let's agree that some of us have more highly developed senses of taste and smell than others, and aren't particularly sensitive to the taste imparted by paper matches, so if they're ok with you, go right ahead.
Now, as to other means of lighting your pipes. Let's start with the beeswax impregnated hemp string. It's likely the purest light you can get. Beeswax is organic, and really doesn't impart a significant taste to the tobacco. Ditto for the hemp. When I'm sitting in my easy chair, I keep a smoker's candle going, and use it to ignite my hemp string, which burns at a temperature below 250C. That's the lowest temperature you're going to get. Now on to the Zippo lighter, preferably with the pipe insert, since it aims the flame a bit more directly into the bowl. Lighter fluid (naphtha) burns at a slightly higher temperature than hemp, 575F or 301C. The Zippo fuel in the black can is a more refined form of lighter fluid, from which most of the sulfur and other chemicals which impart an unpleasant taste to the tobacco have been removed. That said, there are some among us who still find the taste of the fuel to be unpleasant, but again, that's a matter of personal choice. You can minimize the taste of the fuel by waiting one or two seconds after striking the light, and if the smell/taste doesn't offend you, you have a relatively low temperature fuel. Next up the ladder is the wooden match which, once the fuel on the head burns off, relies on wood as its fuel. Wooden matches burn at a temperature of 1100F or 600C, quite a jump upward from Zippo Fuel. Some of the top grade matches, such as Swan Vesta, have cedar sticks, but that's a matter of personal preference, and if the cost doesn't deter you, have at it, but a conventional wooden match will do the job quite nicely. By the way, cedar splints, if you can get them, work quite nicely. On the top rung of our ladder is the butane lighter, which burns at 3590F or 1977C, and that's a really high temperature, so the best advice I can give you there is to be careful. By the way, the torch also uses butane, but it mixes it with oxygen in a particular way that really jacks up the temperature, and that's why they should be shunned for pipes. Hope this information is helpful.

 
Jul 28, 2016
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I was today in strange mood (and stupide enough!)to order me a brand new Peterson gas lighter at James Fox.Irland $ 74 total

Nevertheless,I guess I shall keep on primarly using matches, at least for charring light,and when outside I shall keep relying on zippo fuel lighter with build in pipe insert,lately I'm feelling in love with this heavy brass lighter ,so its dependable and not overpriced the way as Peterson or IMC Coronas do

 
I am always amazed at the level of thinking that pipe smokers give to every aspect of the hobby. Me? I use Bic. I have spent about $500 on fancy big name pipe lighters only to be disappointing by each and everyone of those idiotic decisions. When a Bic lets me down, I can just toss it in the garbage and buy a replacement anywhere.

Matches, I look like an idiot using 20 matches to just get one to light, and then there's the whole walking around with the pack of matches sounding like I have a set of maracas in my pants.

 
Jul 28, 2016
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Cosmic, Oh Yes, on the whole,I real hope I'm not facing this kind of issues as you described, moreover, as for Zippos and Bic

lighters which both most dependable lighter one can find,my most concern is that I do charr, burn my rims with em , so I'm kinda specialist with this,, Moreover,so ture, if something eventually goes wrong with these higher end lighters,(if suddenly mechanical issues do occure)and even if the factory warranty wasen't expired, I still sure am facing trubles sending it back for a repair overseas because our national postal serives reject ship lighters overseas due to current strickt rules set by flying companies, no when I'm looking this my desicion on this new lighter, I'm thinking I could have been living well without this

idiotic achievement, arguably watching them few youtube reviewers did had some negative influence on me, they ´most always are using these higher end lighters,though, younger guys mostly,

 
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