Match Carter Hall

[Burley Guy]

So, I bought a few ounces of various “match” tobaccos recently, and lit up a bowl yesterday of Carter Hall. Yuk! I smoked it in a Rossi 8611, a Bent Dublin. It was harsh, to say the least. It was a bit moist, and required several relights, to the point I cleaned out the bowl. My tongue suffered the effects of a harsh smoke. So this morning I decided to light up another bowl, but in a tiny Peterson Kapp-Royal. The smoke was great, much to my delight. So, what I believe went wrong with the first bowl, is that I packed it too hard, and kept puffing and got bit. The Peterson, I lightly packed, and avoided tamping other that a couple of times just to settle the ash. Wow, what an amazing difference. While the Match is not quite like the original, it stands up nicely as a good Burley, one that I’ll buy more of. The original had just a hint of Virginia, and if the Match does, I could not detect it, which is fine. I can always add some to suit my taste. If you enjoy Burely, give this stuff a try.

 

[Chasing Embers]

If you liked that one, try Angler's Dream.?

 

[aquadoc]

And Chatham Manor. Angler's Dream and CM are superior smokes.

 

[ray47]

I agree with Chatham Manor, much better then Carter Hall. I took the remainder of my Carter Hall and mixed it 50/50 with Prince Albert. I've enjoyed this mixture for years.

 

[mso489]

Another vote for Chatham Manor. The whole Midtown series at PC one-ups the blends it matches. I especially like Chestnut matching the long-discontinued Walnut, but any of them has better and less chemical leaf. All are available in tub, but for about a year, you can also sample any of them in a baggie for around seven bucks.

 

[oldgeezersmoker]

I think I read on this forum that Match Carter Hall and Chatham Manor were the same. I smoked a pouch of Chatham Manor a few years back and thought it was better than the Carter Hall I remembered.

 

[Burley Guy]

Ok, you guys, I just ordered some Chatham Manor. I hold you all personally responsible for your recommendation! LOL. AS I love Burely, I’m sure this will prove to be great. I just finished a bowl of Field and Stream Match. Love it. I smoke some many years ago and really enjoyed it, especially the licorice notes, so I had it with a shot of Sambuca. Nice!

 

[Chasing Embers]

I actually preferred Carter Hall to Chatham Manor. There was an overly sweet taste I didn't care for.

 

[mingc]

Why is there a need for a Match for a tobacco that's widely available? Serious question.

 

[anotherbob]

Why is there a need for a Match for a tobacco that's widely available? Serious question.

with out the gross preservatives. That is as good a reason as any.

 

[weezell]

The Prince Andrew (Prince Albert clone) is not for me. Bought a tub when it first came out and still trying to smoke my way thru it. The Chestnut is good but, I still have the original Walnut and there is no comparison. As far as Carter Hall...I'll stick with Carter Hall...

 

[didimauw]

I'm a fan of Catham Manor as well, but not every day. But the days I smoke it, I chain smoke it.

 

[aquadoc]

I think I read on this forum that Match Carter Hall and Chatham Manor were the same. I smoked a pouch of Chatham Manor a few years back and thought it was better than the Carter Hall I remembered.

That is news to me. It may be true but I am somewhat convinced that they use different sources for the base tobacco(s).

 

[Burley Guy]

Why is there a need for a Match for a tobacco that's widely available? Serious question.

For shits and giggles. I’ve smoked the original, and enjoyed it, but at a great price break, it sounded like worthy of a try.

 

[oldgeezersmoker]

That is news to me. It may be true but I am somewhat convinced that they use different sources for the base tobacco(s).

@jiminks ?

 

[lawdawg]

I like both Chatham Manor and Carter Hall and would gladly smoke a bowl of either blend at pretty much any time. However, it's Chatham Manor that has become my go-to burley blend. As to the issue of "why produce a match for a readily-available blend" another factor is that Chatham Manor uses what I perceive to be better leaf, in addition to the fact that Chatham Manor doesn't include any of the preservatives / humectants that are included in OTC blends like Carter Hall. Also, Chatham Manor is actually less expensive than Carter Hall.

So, in summary, Chatham Manor is less expensive than Carter Hall, blended with better quality leaf, and doesn't contain any of the preservatives that can negatively affect the flavor particularly if you smoke a little too hot.

 

[aquadoc]

@jiminks ?

No. I have tried both. In fact, I am now out of CM but have too many damn pouches of CH because of the Walgreen closings in Georgia. I think that CM is both smoother, has a mildly different sweet component, and is overall the better smoke. And like JIm, I do think that CM is smoother, less rough, and better tasting.

 

[didimauw]

Why is there a need for a Match for a tobacco that's widely available? Serious question.

Hmmm
.. never thought about it like that. And it by far surpasses the FDA deeming date, it ain't going anywhere....ever..

 

[oldgeezersmoker]

No. I have tried both. In fact, I am now out of CM but have too many damn pouches of CH because of the Walgreen closings in Georgia. I think that CM is both smoother, has a mildly different sweet component, and is overall the better smoke. And like JIm, I do think that CM is smoother, less rough, and better tasting.

I was speaking of @jiminks thoughts re: Chatham Manor and Carter Hall Match. In one of the print outs I have from another forum, he seems to treat them interchangeably.

 

[aquadoc]

He says they are both good smoke but CM is superior.