I pointed out in detail that there are several differences between the two in my review. You'd never mistake one for the other.
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Since Middleton's retired most of the their blends, it's my guess that the matches of PA and CH were made in case they get discontinued, too.
Below I s is what I found. I get the distinction between Chatham Manor and Carter Hall, and I wouldn’t confuse the two. However, you refer also, in the title, to Carter Hall Match, but if you are comparing and contrasting it with Chatham Manor, it isn’t obvious to me. There is another thread on this forum, I am reasonably sure, that seemed, from memory, to conclude that Sutliff Carter Hall Match and Chatham Manor are identical. Forget original, still made, Carter Hall.
The difference is several bucks a pound between Sutliff Carter Hall March and Chatham Manor. I am very sorry to have inserted myself in this conversation since I have no intention of purchasing Carter Hall, Sutliff Carter Hall Match, or Chatham Manor, but for those who are I thought I might be doing them a service by possibly saving a few bucks.
From what I had saved:
“Chatham Manor (Carter Hall Match):
The original Carter Hall is fairly nutty with some molasses, and a mild chocolate taste. Chatham Manor, which is a Match for CH, is a slightly more chocolatey, a little less nutty with about the same amount of molasses. I think there’s just a little more red Virginia in the CM. Both have the same toppings: light bourbon and cocoa. Both burn well and even with very few relights. Sometimes, there can be a cigarette note in CH when puffed too fast. That’s not true of the Chatham Manor. Overall, while a close Match, Chatham Manor has a little richer, deeper, more consistent flavor that doesn’t weaken at the finish or leave any dottle. Some times, Carter Hall can lose some flavor near the end, and if puffed very fast, could sport a harsh note or two. That doesn’t happen with this version.”
If you have compared Chatham Manor and Sutliff Carter Hall Match elsewhere, I have not been able to find it. There are no reviews of Sutliff Carter Hall Match on Tobacco Reviews. I think there used to be.
Chatham Manor by design, is a match for Carter Hall. I have not tried the Match Carter Hall, which be well be the same thing as CM, but I am not able to answer that question.
Well I guess I will have to order some of each now. I wish I could find the thread that I remember.
I always buy the tub size when purchasing Carter Hall.
I'll be using the tub size of Carter Hall and Chatham Manor for my comparison. More to come...
Excellent! I look forward to your comparison.
As noted above my comparison was from tubs of both tobaccos.
Chatham Manor is a very good equal / substitute for Carter Hall.
I find CH smokes easier, no relights required. Had to relight CM once or twice.
The CM topping is more prominent, almost making it an aromatic.
These two are so close, I'm not sure if CM would replace my future CH purchases.
Both are worth a try.
As a side note: I usually smoke Carter Hall in the morning or when my palate needs a rest from more premium blends.
I'm revisiting this topic after spending a few more weeks smoking the two and IMHO I'm giving the edge to Carter Hall.
Didimau got me off Carter Hall and into Briar Fox. It is similar to Carter Hall, but has a little something extra that really grabs your attention.
+1 CM all the way.
You can taste the quality of CM’s tobacco. It is richer and fuller than CH. CH is still a great codger blend, but CM has improved on the category.
You can taste the quality of CM’s tobacco. It is richer and fuller than CH. CH is still a great codger blend, but CM has improved on the category.
The second bowl was dry-er? Cult Red Moon is one that wet, out of the tin, sucks. Dry it out a bit and the chocolate notes develope and it will not steam dirty your tongue.
Supposing that some people will like either the original or the match, maybe it is good to have them both available, so people can enjoy the blend that is just right. Sometimes the concept of a blend is good, but a tweak will make it perfect, which ever version tastes better. We know everyone doesn't like any one blend. Different strokes.
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