Let's Talk About The Prince!
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The prince is my favourite shape too, for very much the same reasons as seacaptain - good length and elegant proportions, shallow bowl for a shorter smoke but decent breadth to the chamber. Here is a selection of my favourites.
One of my Dunhill princes (I think the shell finish with silver cap is the perfect prince style):
Michael Parks (as a boxed pair):
Michael Lindner:
Chris Askwith (these are in his "weathered bone" finish, the colourful stems make me think of these as summer pipes - first one is regular shape, second is his version with a chubby bowl):
Fikri Baki meerschaum:
One of my Dunhill princes (I think the shell finish with silver cap is the perfect prince style):
Michael Parks (as a boxed pair):
Michael Lindner:
Chris Askwith (these are in his "weathered bone" finish, the colourful stems make me think of these as summer pipes - first one is regular shape, second is his version with a chubby bowl):
Fikri Baki meerschaum:
moriarty....I see you don't post much...but when you do?...well this one at least..all I can say is:
Jaysus!
Jaysus!
Lovely pipes all! It's a shape that just exudes refinement much like the Duke or Don. One of my favorite shapes, but I own none. :roll:
btw: Prince is a personal friend. whenever I visit he requires I bring a purple Askwith Oom Paul fully loaded with Grasmere.
btw: Prince is a personal friend. whenever I visit he requires I bring a purple Askwith Oom Paul fully loaded with Grasmere.
Prince fan here too. In fact I have a nice prince dress Dunhill heading my way as I speak. But what means "dumped them"? Next time send them to me for proper disposal.
Sold them. A couple were expensive lessons unfortunately. In other hobbies I've been involved in, they call it "paying your dues".
One thing I'd like to do is get a list together of all the different manufacturer's prince shapes. I'll start off with the ones I know, please feel free to post additions or correct any that I have wrong.
Dunhill - 407 is the current prince with an additional number representing the pipe group size, i.e. 2407, 3407, 4407, etc. Pre-1976 prince shape designation is FE.
Chacom - model 337p a more traditional prince and model 862 a larger prince, almost apple shaped.
Comoy - model 337
Savinelli - model 313 is the smaller version, group 3, and model 315 is group 4. There's also a 315ex, their largest prince shaped pipe.
Wessex - model 612
Lorenzetti - model 29
Luciano - model 92
Rattray - model 39 and 46
Rossi - model 8315, made by Savinelli, same as their model 315
Ashton - as far as I can tell, they don't have model numbers, they just call it a prince.
Peterson - model 408, almost apple proportions
Nording - no model number, it's just called a prince
Dunhill - 407 is the current prince with an additional number representing the pipe group size, i.e. 2407, 3407, 4407, etc. Pre-1976 prince shape designation is FE.
Chacom - model 337p a more traditional prince and model 862 a larger prince, almost apple shaped.
Comoy - model 337
Savinelli - model 313 is the smaller version, group 3, and model 315 is group 4. There's also a 315ex, their largest prince shaped pipe.
Wessex - model 612
Lorenzetti - model 29
Luciano - model 92
Rattray - model 39 and 46
Rossi - model 8315, made by Savinelli, same as their model 315
Ashton - as far as I can tell, they don't have model numbers, they just call it a prince.
Peterson - model 408, almost apple proportions
Nording - no model number, it's just called a prince
I've always found the prince shape appealing but have yet to add one to my collection. Maybe, some day, my prince will come. :lol:
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I have never taken the time to truly appreciate the prince, but wow, they are quite simply beautiful with their sleek lines and the variations of decorations are quite remarkable! I don't own one since I'm a sucker for apples. The Dunhill Shell is simply a masterpiece!! How does it smoke?
My version of the lovely princes above are 9 MM Diplomats, a 30-40 minute smoke; cost ~$50.00, which translates into lesser briars of the same number as $450.00.
Last I saw Scotty Piersel had a lovely blasted Prince with about an 8 inch stem for $275.00. Lovely lovely. ladybriar.com.
Last I saw Scotty Piersel had a lovely blasted Prince with about an 8 inch stem for $275.00. Lovely lovely. ladybriar.com.
Geoffry, the Dunhill shell is a great smoker. I sometimes wonder how much the smoking experience is in the mind. If you really love a pipe the chances are that it will smoke better - maybe because you slow down and take a little more care packing and lighting. Anyway, whatever it is, this one smokes as well as any pipe I have.
Thanks, guys, for the nice comments about the pipes. I'll try to post more often.
Thanks, guys, for the nice comments about the pipes. I'll try to post more often.
yo davet
Nope. Not a Prince. I do like the shape though - the triangular shank helps make it a sitter? Who carved it?
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Nope. Not a Prince. I do like the shape though - the triangular shank helps make it a sitter? Who carved it?
hp
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seadogontheland
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Moriarty,
I agree with you that the smoking experience is enhanced when you are attached to a pipe such as your beautiful little prince, and a great smoker to boot!! Can't beat that. Do you mind if I ask how much you paid for that Dunhill? The contrast with the silver is stunning.
I agree with you that the smoking experience is enhanced when you are attached to a pipe such as your beautiful little prince, and a great smoker to boot!! Can't beat that. Do you mind if I ask how much you paid for that Dunhill? The contrast with the silver is stunning.
Geoffry, the Dunhill prince was from Alpascia and it's a group 4. I don't recall what I paid but Dunhill prices seem to be much lower in Europe than from US retailers and Alpascia is the best place I've found to buy them.
Right now they have a bunch of princes on the site, but none exactly the same as this. For example, there's a 4407 bruyere prince with silver cap for Eur537, a 4407 cumberland prince without the silver cap for Eur319, a 4107 (straight prince) shell briar for Eur299 without silver, and another 4107 with a silver band for Eur356. These are the tax-free prices for buyers outside Europe. The conversion rate at the moment is about 1.1 Euros to the US dollar, so I guess these are about 1/3 cheaper than they sell for in the US. Mine was probably about $450 or so. I'll dig out the order when I get home from work and send you a PM.
http://www.alpascia.com/pipes/l/Dunhill
Alpascia is one of the very best online pipe retailers. If you sign-up for their weekly updates there is sure to be the one you want sooner or later. They post about half a dozen new Dunhills every week. And doesn't it mean more if you have to hunt a little for the pipe you want, rather than having it handed to you on a plate?
Right now they have a bunch of princes on the site, but none exactly the same as this. For example, there's a 4407 bruyere prince with silver cap for Eur537, a 4407 cumberland prince without the silver cap for Eur319, a 4107 (straight prince) shell briar for Eur299 without silver, and another 4107 with a silver band for Eur356. These are the tax-free prices for buyers outside Europe. The conversion rate at the moment is about 1.1 Euros to the US dollar, so I guess these are about 1/3 cheaper than they sell for in the US. Mine was probably about $450 or so. I'll dig out the order when I get home from work and send you a PM.
http://www.alpascia.com/pipes/l/Dunhill
Alpascia is one of the very best online pipe retailers. If you sign-up for their weekly updates there is sure to be the one you want sooner or later. They post about half a dozen new Dunhills every week. And doesn't it mean more if you have to hunt a little for the pipe you want, rather than having it handed to you on a plate?
I found this Dunhill 4407 shell with silver cap on Iwan Ries for US$515. The silver cap is also engraved. The shank is a little longer than on mine. Seems to have a nice grain pattern. I wish they had more than one photo of their pipes.
http://www.iwanries.com/Dunhill-Shell-4407-P13276C1994.cfm
http://www.iwanries.com/Dunhill-Shell-4407-P13276C1994.cfm
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