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mindglue

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Castello "Sea Rock" looks amazing, it's stay on my bucket list. For awhile I even didn't know that it's rustication.
 

Waning Embers

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Sea Rock (left) always appeared haphazard and unnatural to me sort of like Savinelli's Estella rustication. The Capri (right) looks to me like something that could appear in nature.

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For reference, the Estella rustication.

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alaskanpiper

Enabler in Chief
May 23, 2019
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Sea Rock (left) always appeared haphazard and unnatural to me sort of like Savinelli's Estella rustication. The Capri (right) looks to me like something that could appear in nature.

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For reference, the Estella rustication.

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Estella looks like something that can appear in nature: dookie

I agree about the old sea rocks, but many of the newer ones (especially 55s) seem to have a sharper, shallower rustication that I don’t abhor.
 
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cigrmaster

Lifer
May 26, 2012
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I am not a fan of rusticated pipes. I own 2 out of 85 or so in my collection. Most of my pipes are sandblasted but I also have a number of smooth ones as well.
I did like the rustication on the old Caminetto's from the Radice/Ascorti era, those were pretty cool. If I was to ever buy another rusticated pipe it would be a Castello Sea Rock.
 
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mso489

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Feb 21, 2013
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Rustication can be a patch job or high art. When it is done well, for me, it is as good as other well executed finishes. Some of my favorite rustication, on my own rack, is from Bob Hays, Jerry Perry, and Johs (Mogen Johansen). In addition, as a more subjective matter, I like some of the factory pipe rustication that may not be high art, but has an appeal, that I see on many pipes from Savinelli, La Rocca, BC, Kaywoodie, and others. Rustication is probably mostly not for the perfectionist, or for those who are able to smoke only high-end pipes. But if you are more relaxed about it, pick and choose. There is plenty of awful rustication, yes, but there is a wide array of pretty good to great too. Also, to pick up on BROBS post, some rustication improves with handling and smoking the pipe, and starts out a little funky, but deepens into impressive character, as do some people.
 

irishearl

Lifer
Aug 2, 2016
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Peterson's best rustication was done in the more distant past, (early 90's and older). Current rustication a vast improvement on the pineapple approach. Have some older rusticated Pete's with fine rustication and my never ones are not up to that standard but are not the pineapple version either.
 

shanez

Lifer
Jul 10, 2018
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I think thats a "The White Spot".

Does it say its rusticated in the description?

I found the site and it doesn't give any description, just a few measurements. I did get a better pic that shows the finish much better:

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I also went back and looked again at the site (not the pipe in the picture's site) that used the word rustic and here is their description for a different pipe:

"Arguably the worlds best pipes and definitely the most desirable. Pipes don't get better than Alfred Dunhill's White Spot. Created from the best raw materials available and finished to the highest quality, you can be assured to find no flaws in these pipes they really are perfection. The Alfred Dunhill started in 1912 and with exceptional craftsmanship and quality products soon became the best in the world and to this day nothing changes.

This pipe here is the Shell Briar finish which is a rustic almost black finish

The pipe Pictured is the pipe that you will receive

Please find exact measurements of the pipe below"

Further down under that was Pipe Details:

"Pipe Material : Briar
Shape : Apple
Finish : Rustic
Colour : Brown / Black
Mouthpiece : Fishtail
Filter : None"

I don't know if it makes any difference whatsoever but none of the 3 websites I've referenced are in the US. What I do know about Dunhill's finish is that it is a blast that also involves treating the wood with oil and heat. Many of their pipes show the grain very well but some show little to no grain which makes it very hard to tell it's a blast finish. In fact, without knowing Dunhill's process, I wouldn't be able to say it was a blast. This makes it very confusing for new people.
 
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bluegrassbrian

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Shell Briars have been made for around 100 years and they have always been sandblasted.
They havent been oil cured for quite some time though.
The use of the word "rustic" is exclusive to european sites. Probably the result of using translation software.
 
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sasquatch

Lifer
Jul 16, 2012
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I found the site and it doesn't give any description, just a few measurements. I did get a better pic that shows the finish much better:

View attachment 9552

I also went back and looked again at the site (not the pipe in the picture's site) that used the word rustic and here is their description for a different pipe:

"Arguably the worlds best pipes and definitely the most desirable. Pipes don't get better than Alfred Dunhill's White Spot. Created from the best raw materials available and finished to the highest quality, you can be assured to find no flaws in these pipes they really are perfection. The Alfred Dunhill started in 1912 and with exceptional craftsmanship and quality products soon became the best in the world and to this day nothing changes.

This pipe here is the Shell Briar finish which is a rustic almost black finish

The pipe Pictured is the pipe that you will receive

Please find exact measurements of the pipe below"

Further down under that was Pipe Details:

"Pipe Material : Briar
Shape : Apple
Finish : Rustic
Colour : Brown / Black
Mouthpiece : Fishtail
Filter : None"

I don't know if it makes any difference whatsoever but none of the 3 websites I've referenced are in the US. What I do know about Dunhill's finish is that it is a blast that also involves treating the wood with oil and heat. Many of their pipes show the grain very well but some show little to no grain which makes it very hard to tell it's a blast finish. In fact, without knowing Dunhill's process, I wouldn't be able to say it was a blast. This makes it very confusing for new people.

Clearly a sandblast and not "rusticated". Rustic? Maybe. Rusticated? No, it's blasted, and the texture is grain-related because of that.
 
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