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Law

Starting to Get Obsessed
Oct 1, 2020
222
320
Saudi Arabia
So if Hearth & Home, John cotton, Bengal slices, and War horse are all discontinued, then it means that no other brands made by Sutliff or Mac Baren are safe. That sums up the fact that SPC, Savinelli, 90% of Mac Baren and many smaller house blenders / brands such as mixture 79 are all, soon to be, massacred (Unless cornel and Diehl or someone saves these houses). The "golden age of pipe tobacco" is officially over, entering into the dark ages and sadly doesn't seem like an exaggeration. This transition is not a slow and gradual one, but a nuclear bomb to the hobby. What a shit show.
 

Beers 'N Briars

Starting to Get Obsessed
Feb 5, 2021
153
678
Yakima, Washington
So if Hearth & Home, John cotton, Bengal slices, and War horse are all discontinued, then it means that no other brands made by Sutliff or Mac Baren are safe. That sums up the fact that SPC, Savinelli, 90% of Mac Baren and many smaller house blenders / brands such as mixture 79 are all, soon to be, massacred (Unless cornel and Diehl or someone saves these houses). The "golden age of pipe tobacco" is officially over, entering into the dark ages and sadly doesn't seem like an exaggeration. This transition is not a slow and gradual one, but a nuclear bomb to the hobby. What a shit show.
Don’t forget this means the end of Curly Block too. Was hoping to grab one more but I doubt we’ll see a final run.
 

PoshJosh1999

Lurker
Mar 28, 2023
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50
Th
So if Hearth & Home, John cotton, Bengal slices, and War horse are all discontinued, then it means that no other brands made by Sutliff or Mac Baren are safe. That sums up the fact that SPC, Savinelli, 90% of Mac Baren and many smaller house blenders / brands such as mixture 79 are all, soon to be, massacred (Unless cornel and Diehl or someone saves these houses). The "golden age of pipe tobacco" is officially over, entering into the dark ages and sadly doesn't seem like an exaggeration. This transition is not a slow and gradual one, but a nuclear bomb to the hobby. What a shit show.
thats quite accurate. We’re talking about literally hundreds of blends simply ceasing to exist, and of those blends a lot will be considered high quality must try blends. War Horse and Plum Pudding for example. The next generation of pipe smokers, if there is one after this, will definitely be missing out.
 

geoffreybeene

Lurker
Sep 4, 2024
38
353
Seattle
Perhaps this huge cutback in offerings was done in anticipation of a mass suicide of pipe smokers on the heels of the July acquisition news. Less pipe smokers to satisfy, less blends needed to do it. Then it becomes a chicken-or-the-egg type of self-fulfilling prophecy, but it makes sense. Sort of.
a friend said something like, 'we don't need more tobacco to build lifelong cellars, we just need less life'
 

gcm

Starting to Get Obsessed
Nov 10, 2023
180
3,145
Belgium, Flanders
I've just received information about certain John aylesbury blends that are made by macb, and will of course also be gone.
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This is an email ive gotten by one of the macb employees after asking which of JA's offerings are made by macb.

Ive scrapped out his name for privacy's sake.

Edit: scrapped all personal info.
 
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filmguerilla

Can't Leave
Oct 17, 2022
336
2,060
Memphis, Tennessee
So if Hearth & Home, John cotton, Bengal slices, and War horse are all discontinued, then it means that no other brands made by Sutliff or Mac Baren are safe. That sums up the fact that SPC, Savinelli, 90% of Mac Baren and many smaller house blenders / brands such as mixture 79 are all, soon to be, massacred (Unless cornel and Diehl or someone saves these houses). The "golden age of pipe tobacco" is officially over, entering into the dark ages and sadly doesn't seem like an exaggeration. This transition is not a slow and gradual one, but a nuclear bomb to the hobby. What a shit show.
Don’t forget Newminster and Kramer’s. McB produces Newminster, Sutliff produces Kramer’s.