Just in from STG/MacBaren/Sutliff

[ThomasS]

Meanwhile, I have male family on both sides who lingered (are lingering!) to a “ripe” old age on excessive medication and limited actual “life” with constant care and tending to.

Can I please go sooner?

 

[Woobijube]

Just got this in an email. I guess that means all the tinned tobacco are going away.

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Sad day for the Cause.

 

[Hillcrest]

Can I please go sooner?

No you can't ! Get back to work !

 

[sablebrush52]

Maybe this is the beginnings of a trend to getting back to consuming real food in fast food restaurants?

There is no "real" food in fast food restaurants, just various incarnations of silicon vibrafoam.

 

[sablebrush52]

The way I feel these days I hope not, I made peace with the family longevity years ago. I knew what having to give up work last year at 50 years old meant. I've seen and done all of the things I've ever wanted to and have watched things about growing up that I loved fading into obscurity. Not my world anymore.

Speaking as someone who has gone through some serious shit, like losing the use of my painting arm for 10 months and more recently, waking up to find myself unable to walk more than a few feet, and then only in utter agony, when the day before I had done my usual 4.5 mile walk into town and back, I'm going to say, don't give up.

I may be using a cane these days, but at least I can get around, am up to about a half mile at a time, and each day I work on getting better.

Just joined the local Y to work on my muscles, particularly lower back hips and legs, and get in some cardio. Get a second opinion and if that doesn't work get a third one. When issues with my eyes started to happen at the end of 2019 it took visits to four different practices before the problem was diagnosed. Not every doctor is created equal.

Make the most of the hand you've been dealt. Somehow, life seems better to me when I fight back against adversity. Eventually we all get dealt a hand we can't beat, but until then, don't assume that it has happened.

 

[Zamora]

Not at all, just realism.



No faith in it. They institutionalized my youngest daughter from 6 until 17 for one disorder after another until they finally decided she was just autistic. It took years to get her off of the pharmaceuticals and she's still not completely right. I have just accepted reality without the need for "happy" pills from guessing witch doctors.

I've given up on many of them and just placed them in the ignore pile.


My hands that forced me into early retirement also prevent me from writing, drawing, and working puzzles.

Not that I don't have anything to live for but am already dying.

I feel it man, finding a counselor is a pain in the ass between having to make sure they're accepting new clients AND take an insurance plan you have.

 

[Chasing Embers]

Do not go gentle into that good night​

Dylan Thomas
1914 – 1953

Do not go gentle into that good night,
Old age should burn and rave at close of day;
Rage, rage against the dying of the light.

Though wise men at their end know dark is right,
Because their words had forked no lightning they
Do not go gentle into that good night.

Good men, the last wave by, crying how bright
Their frail deeds might have danced in a green bay,
Rage, rage against the dying of the light.

Wild men who caught and sang the sun in flight,
And learn, too late, they grieved it on its way,
Do not go gentle into that good night.

Grave men, near death, who see with blinding sight
Blind eyes could blaze like meteors and be gay,
Rage, rage against the dying of the light.

And you, my father, there on the sad height,
Curse, bless, me now with your fierce tears, I pray.
Do not go gentle into that good night.
Rage, rage against the dying of the light.

I've always despised that poem. I'm not suicidal, I'm in the middle stages of decline and I'm okay with that.

 

[Chasing Embers]

I feel it man, finding a counselor is a pain in the ass between having to make sure they're accepting new clients AND take an insurance plan you have.

And if you don't agree with them they lock you up and pump you full of medication that can cause worse problems.

 

[iqofgenius]

Why is everyone blaming STG ?? Let's ask Mr. Mckenna at Sutliff why he sold us out. He is retiring into the sunset with millions! Why did he sell?

 

[FLDRD]

Why is everyone blaming STG ?? Let's ask Mr. Mckenna at Sutliff why he sold us out. He is retiring into the sunset with millions! Why did he sell?

Sometimes a screen name is so hard to live up to..........

 

[telescopes]

There is no such thing as Benovelent Capitalism.

 

[Zamora]

Why is everyone blaming STG ?? Let's ask Mr. Mckenna at Sutliff why he sold us out. He is retiring into the sunset with millions! Why did he sell?

He didn't, it was the Mac Baren heir. I'm not sure if McKenna was involved in Mac Baren buying Sutliff but Altadis was the previous owner so it's not like they were independent.

EDIT: buying Sutliff not selling

 

[Mike N]

Let's hope Max has the juice to keep his namesake "1989" blend and the Stokkebye generational line in production. By the way, I've met and smoked a pipe and done some business with his dad, Erik, and he is the consummate gentleman.

 

[woodsroad]

Why is everyone blaming STG ?? Let's ask Mr. Mckenna at Sutliff why he sold us out. He is retiring into the sunset with millions! Why did he sell?

WTF?

 

[Mike N]

He didn't, it was the Mac Baren heir. I'm not sure if McKenna was involved in Mac Baren selling Sutliff but Altadis was the previous owner so it's not like they were independent.

You all need to listen to the recent Greywoodie podcast interview with Jeremy McKenna. He was NOT part of the decision-making process and was as surprised as anyone by the STG acquisition. Mac Barren did not "sell" Sutliff. By the way, Jeremy is currently looking for a new job and I wish him and his brother, Jake, the best. They are good people.

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I was in Richmond VA today, and got a chance to visit Sutliff and get a tour of their tremendous facility. Jake McKenna runs the concierge service for Tobaccopipes.com, and I got to pick up several pipes and a load of tobacco. I highly recommend this service. Jake was great.

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[DedHed Piper]

WTF?

Yes. I thought it was an ironic/satiric post, but I’m not so sure anymore.

 

[Zamora]

You all need to listen to the recent Graywoodie podcast interview with Jeremy McKenna. He was NOT part of the decision-making process and was as surprised as anyone by the STG acquisition. Mac Barren did not "sell" Sutliff. By the way, Jeremy is currently looking for a new job and I wish him and his brother, Jake, the best. They are good people.

I need to listen to that. I meant to say "Mac Baren buying Sutliff" but I misstyped. I know Mac Baren didn't sell Sutliff, they sold themselves and that meant Sutliff was part of the deal, otherwise it would be Sutliff stuff getting axed while Mac Baren is untouched. I meant to say "Mac Baren buying Sutliff" but I misstyped. I hope the McKennas are able to find something in the industry, I'm sure the remaining companies would love to have them. If not then something fulfilling in another field.

 

[JoeW]

There is no such thing as Benovelent Capitalism government.

FTFY

 

[Mike N]

I need to listen to that. I meant to say "Mac Baren buying Sutliff" but I misstyped. I know Mac Baren didn't sell Sutliff, they sold themselves and that meant Sutliff was part of the deal, otherwise it would be Sutliff stuff getting axed while Mac Baren is untouched. I meant to say "Mac Baren buying Sutliff" but I misstyped. I hope the McKennas are able to find something in the industry, I'm sure the remaining companies would love to have them. If not then something fulfilling in another field.

Here you go (Episode 129):

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[telescopes]

FTFY

More like broke it. The State of Denmark didn't shut down Sutliff. STG, a publicly held company did that all by themselves - days before the Danish government could have done something to prevent it. If it ain't broke, don't fix it.