Let's hope he avoids vacations in Mexico City just to be safe... lmaoI'm just glad to see that you've finally given up on all that Marxist nonsense and have embraced Capitalism. Great job, mate
Just in from STG/MacBaren/Sutliff
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Clearly you haven't smoked Holly's Non Plus Ultra. And I have a problem with Borkum Riff. I'm not sure that it is tobacco.
Other than that I'd have to agree with you. I'd define it as "more enjoyable" VS "less enjoyable" tobacco to me.
I have. Me and @mingc bought out all of pipedtuds stock a few years ago and am anxiously awaiting more.
Great Enclosure. Thanks! Downloaded it for my files. Great to see that Presbyterian Mixture and Navy Flake are going to be around, albeit probably with a more Scandinavian a la Borkum Riff touch. Selfishly he said, suits me fine. I can get Borkum Riff products here in Canada from the Mohawk Reserve. Navy Flake interests me - I've not had an opportunity to try it and I want another Navy to back up Black Frigate and Rockwell.
I suppose we can take solace in the fact that there are still many good tobaccos available.
I will miss the match offerings a lot. The Edgeworth/Ready Rubbed and BS matches for example. I presume the intellectual property has been acquired and that it’s possible some of these may return.
I guess anything is possible, but STG stated their goal is to substantially reduce the number of blends they make by 2028. I highly doubt they will bring anything back without a huge shift in the marketplace.
Well at least we have Esoterica to fall back on.
Oh no ... they started a trend ... 
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I got a couple of pounds of Dark Twist in today from TP. Manufacture date on both bags was Sept 2023. Assuming the decision to shutter Sutliff and hobble Mac Baren surprised everyone last summer at the earliest, I wonder if they continued making all of the Mac Baren and Sutliff blends until recently, meaning everyone will have a chance to procure tins of beloved favorites before they're gone for good. I was happy to receive that Dark Twist - there's nothing like it out there, except for some of the other Mac Baren coins.
I have been catching up on this snd related threads. The situation does not seem that complicated.
Smoking generally has declined precipitously and pipe smoking is effectively dead or dying. Its a small niche pastime. I know of two other pipe smokers and neither smokes frequently.
Yet the tobacco pipes catalogs I get list literally hundreds of sutliff and other brands, most of which seem indistinguishable based on their descriptions and are sold at ridiculously low prices on a relative basis (eg compared to cigars).
How is it a surprise that these companies are disappearing? Why would these businesses give two shits about the “pipe smoking community”. Small blenders might, but a relatively large corporation?
Seems pretty clear that, as others have predicted, pipe tobacco will become much more scarce and more expensive in coming years. Which will present even greater barriers to entry.
At the end of the day, does it really matter that much?
Smoking generally has declined precipitously and pipe smoking is effectively dead or dying. Its a small niche pastime. I know of two other pipe smokers and neither smokes frequently.
Yet the tobacco pipes catalogs I get list literally hundreds of sutliff and other brands, most of which seem indistinguishable based on their descriptions and are sold at ridiculously low prices on a relative basis (eg compared to cigars).
How is it a surprise that these companies are disappearing? Why would these businesses give two shits about the “pipe smoking community”. Small blenders might, but a relatively large corporation?
Seems pretty clear that, as others have predicted, pipe tobacco will become much more scarce and more expensive in coming years. Which will present even greater barriers to entry.
At the end of the day, does it really matter that much?
Can confirm the kids are all about the vaping. if its not vaping flavored crap its vaping hemp/thc crap.
What will P&C magazines look like going forward without numerous blends to fill the mysterious pages now?
Envision a 1980’s phone book to a current day phone book after the cutting of the blends.
Agree with basically everything you said up to here. To answer the (prob rhetorical) question posed tho I will say yes, it does matter to a significant portion of the people who enjoy this sport as well as the more than a couple handfuls who were employed/devoted their lives to it.. so that is why we mourn and discuss.
Will life go on? Sure. Does that mean you don't go to your dad's funeral?
(Again, a rhetorical device lol)
Yeah, I saw that: free Sutliff pouch if you spend $49 or more on Sutliff tobacco. Good luck with that!
And Three Nuns. I was really hoping Bengal Slices would make it but it was one of the first discontinuations to be announced. When that was announced I new nothing was safe. Presbyterian gives me a headache for some reason but I'm glad it made the cut given it's popularity and historyGreat Enclosure. Thanks! Downloaded it for my files. Great to see that Presbyterian Mixture and Navy Flake are going to be around, albeit probably with a more Scandinavian a la Borkum Riff touch. Selfishly he said, suits me fine. I can get Borkum Riff products here in Canada from the Mohawk Reserve. Navy Flake interests me - I've not had an opportunity to try it and I want another Navy to back up Black Frigate and Rockwell.
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