He actually worked for many years at the pipe factory, then he sold the operations to WO Larsen and started working at MacBaren.
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He was pushed from MacBaren back in 2021. The collaboration with Sutliff started shortly after that and ended with the end of Sutliff.
Mac Baren bought Altadis in the early 2010s and returned it to its original name Sutliff.
Agreed. Boycotting STG just seems silly to me. Especially when they have come in and saved blends from being discontinued from the market. (i.e. the Dunhill/Peterson blends). Boycotting STG wouldn't do much to hurt their bottom line, as they're a global industry, but it could potentially cause them to discontinue other blends if they're not selling, and then we lose even more blends from the market.
I am sorry, I am not sure what this has to do with my comment that was related to Per Jensen tenure at MacBaren and Sutliff
Then which collaboration were you referring to?I am sorry, I am not sure what this has to do with my comment that was related to Per Jensen tenure at MacBaren and Sutliff
It seems silly to you because it’s just a dumb assed statement by emotional Suzies who need validation because big tobacco bad.
Shortsighted response. Boycotting STG may or may not send a message to them - better if many pipe enthusiasts did this. Keeping quiet and simply accepting being 'Sutliffed' is like hiding your head in the sand. I'm not one to sit back and take being crapped on. I prefer to do what little I can to return the favor. STG has already done their damage to the piping hobby, so there is not much more to lose if they simply discontinue all their blends. So, why not send at least a symbolic message. I do have some favorites manufactured by STG, but will NOT ever order from them again. I'd much rather find something else from the many options still left.
As for STG - here's couple of definite benefits in boycotting them;
First, it makes one feel damn good - a little get even.
Second, it benefits other viable / smaller pipe/cigar companies that could sure as hell use the support.
Third, it may keep others viable and profitable so as to sustain good suppliers.
Fourth, it may just send a message to the tobacco companies left that they are appreciated and needed.
Just my 2.5c.
If I’m only going to buy C&D/Pease blends why would I then stop buying from SP? That doesn’t make sense. I don’t care if Sykes continues to have STG blends on the site. Thats his choice. Plus those blends are gonna be watered down and nothing like they currently are because STG will use a different leaf supplier and different machinery and different blenders. All you’ll be buying, and all anyone will be selling, is the name.
In Australia foods items like chocolate, lollies (candies) biscuits (cookies) drinks etc often get discontinued. But the public push back and protest demanding their return.
So sometimes a product returns by “Popular Demand” and sometimes the original recipe returns due to popular demand and the label says “Original Recipe”
Take care from TimPiper.
So sometimes a product returns by “Popular Demand” and sometimes the original recipe returns due to popular demand and the label says “Original Recipe”
Take care from TimPiper.
Well, back in November I made a spreadsheet of my favorites in a year of smoking pipes and hunkered down. 4lb of Plumbcake, 3lb of 507c, 17 tins of Eastfarthing and a few others. I have a solid cellar now but I may still throw more money at the problem with this development 
Like I mentioned above, Sutliff and Mac Baren were one and the same for over a decade. He didn't leave one for another.
Then listen the interview somebody posted earlier (which I did).
I didn’t say he left one for another, he was pushed from MacBaren and subsequently started collaborating with Sutliff.
Yah, he was fired. There's a PM Radio Show interview where he says so himself
Canary in the coal mine
Mac Baren bought Sutliff from Altadis, which is a subsidiary of Imperial Tobacco.
Well yeah, you're probably not who I'm talking about then. You likely don't feel all that passionate about the situation. I'm talking about those who claim to be boycotting STG for the for the greater good of pipe tobacco etc. It just seems to me those claims fall a bit short if they're not willing to go that extra step. My other point is retailers (like SP) could also suffer from an STG failure, so I wouldn't be rooting for that either. From what I get you're just not a fan of them, their product, or more specifically what you fear their product twill become in the near future. I get that.
I'll just keep buying what I like as long as it's available. However, if what I currently like changes to something I don't care for then yup, I won't be buying it either.
