John Adams or Thomas Jefferson

[Merton]

Adams. A great lawyer who bucked popular opinion by defending the British Troops charged in the Boston Massacre. He delivered one of the most famous closing arguments in American jurisprudence: "Facts are stubborn things". He was passionate about America and about the revolution and was both provocateur and the catalyst behind the Continental Congress and Jefferson himself. He had a long and passionate love story with his wife Abigail ("Remember the ladies"). While he and Jefferson were not close and became antagonistic with one another, they became reconciled in their old age and wrote to one another. Adams was much older. And so it was that one day Adams went to a parade. Coming home he began to fell ill and later that day he passed away. His final words: "Jefferson yet lives". However, Jefferson had passed early in the morning of the same day: July 4, 1826, 50 years to the day of the signing. One of the most extraordinary moments in American history.

Plus, as a Bostonian, Adams is our guy.

 

[puff_not_snuff]

Adams. A great lawyer who bucked popular opinion by defending the British Troops charged in the Boston Massacre. He delivered one of the most famous closing arguments in American jurisprudence: "Facts are stubborn things". He was passionate about America and about the revolution and was both provocateur and the catalyst behind the Continental Congress and Jefferson himself. He had a long and passionate love story with his wife Abigail ("Remember the ladies"). While he and Jefferson were not close and became antagonistic with one another, they became reconciled in their old age and wrote to one another. Adams was much older. And so it was that one day Adams went to a parade. Coming home he began to fell ill and later that day he passed away. His final words: "Jefferson yet lives". However, Jefferson had passed early in the morning of the same day: July 4, 1826, 50 years to the day of the signing. One of the most extraordinary moments in American history.

Plus, as a Bostonian, Adams is our guy.

Well... I guess I wasted 6+ hours watching HBO's John Adams, I could of just read the summery of his life here and watched Gilmore Girls instead.

 

[Merton]

Well... I guess I wasted 6+ hours watching HBO's John Adams, I could of just read the summery of his life here and watched Gilmore Girls instead.

well, you brought up the subject. one word responses are sort of boring.

 

[anotherbob]

The trunk's not that big. Jackson's torso wouldn't fit.

just cause you're bad at corpse tetris doesn't mean it can't be done.

 

[anotherbob]

Like a religious artifact??? It's treated more like toilet paper.

and usually by the same people though that said the peopld who wrote it according to their own statements would be perplexed by our not rewriting it. I forget which one said a new one should be written every 50 years

 

[puff_not_snuff]

Didn't James Franklin say "fish and constitutions stink after 30 years"?

 

[anotherbob]

Exactly. Multi generational gaps would create an impossible language barrier.

it can be hard enough at 40 something understanding what the heck the kids are talking about. And we're both alive in the same time period. Multiply that by several and it just gets murkier and murkier.

 

[Servant King]

Neither. Buncha secular humanist Statist twats, the both of 'em. I'll bet if they were around today, they'd both smoke Lakelands around me, just to piss me off.

Dorks.

 

[jguss]

it can be hard enough at 40 something understanding what the heck the kids are talking about. And we're both alive in the same time period. Multiply that by several and it just gets murkier and murkier.

I think if we can posit talking to the dead we can suspend disbelief over any communication barriers.

 

[anotherbob]

I think if we can posit talking to the dead we can suspend disbelief over any communication barriers.

this whole thread just shows what people don't do. Trust me that is the number two issue with talking to the dead the number one is they always give the same advice eat more sweets and do more drugs

 

[jguss]

this whole thread just shows what people don't do. Trust me that is the number two issue with talking to the dead the number one is they always give the same advice eat more sweets and do more drugs

That’s funny, all the dead Founding Fathers I’ve met seem obsessed with wanting to know if the frock coat they’re wearing makes their ass look fat.

 

[romaso]

TJ, an interesting renaissance man, plus it's hard for me to forgive Adams for the Alien and Sedition Acts.

 

[romaso]

Adams. I already spend enough time smoking my pipes with Jefferson, Franklin, Washington and Lincoln (I actually have two Jefferson's).
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Franklin looks great in that hat!

 

[anotherbob]

That’s funny, all the dead Founding Fathers I’ve met seem obsessed with wanting to know if the frock coat they’re wearing makes their ass look fat.

hate to tell you those are or where mimes

 

[ashdigger]

I enjoy listening to the Dead Kennedy’s ~ Abe Lincoln probably

 

[puff_not_snuff]

Jell-o Biafra isn't dead!

 

[warren]

I believe both have been written about too many times to enumerate. Their beliefs or lack there of are well documented and then dissected. I can't think of a subject worth discussing with either one. Well, if there is a hereafter and I can find a competent medium, I would their thoughts on the current state of the Republic. Thier perspective would be most entertaining.

 

[puff_not_snuff]

I was just reading the Wikipedia page on Henry Knox. Another self made and interesting figure from that time. Amazing that he was more or less a self taught military strategist.

 

[jguss]

I pick Betty. No, Veronica. Wait a minute, I’m sure it’s Betty. What was the question?

 

[scloyd]

I pick Betty. No, Veronica. Wait a minute, I’m sure it’s Betty. What was the question?

Mary Ann first, then Ginger.