John Adams or Thomas Jefferson

[puff_not_snuff]

Both were flawed like we all are but hypocrisy aside and if perhaps only choosing based on some affinity you developed for one or another based solely perhaps from the vapors left by their personalities wafting through time, smudged under the pens of historians, which would you prefer to spend an afternoon at Starbucks with?

edit: this question arose in my mind during and after watching the excellent John Adams miniseries on HBO.

 

[Infantry23]

Jefferson

 

[verporchting]

I’m afraid the conversation would be a bit … dead. ?

 

[puff_not_snuff]

I’m afraid the conversation would be a bit … dead. ?

History is never dead, my friend.

 

[HawkeyeLinus]

Hamilton!

Not wasting my shot if I get to bring back any of those guys!

Seriously, either or any would be fascinating, Franklin I'm guessing would be a hoot.

Otherwise, Daniel Boone and Francis Marion!

 

[cosmicfolklore]

Probably Jefferson, but he'd probably want to read up on me some before we meet... so that he can develop some questions for me. I don't want him to just set there and stare at me as I smoke and drink my coffee.

 

[autococker07]

Both were flawed like we all are but hypocrisy aside and if perhaps only choosing based on some affinity you developed for one or another based solely perhaps from the vapors left by their personalities wafting through time, smudged under the pens of historians, which would you prefer to spend an afternoon at Starbucks with?

edit: this question arose in my mind during and after watching the excellent John Adams miniseries on HBO.

Jefferson, but not at Starbucks, I'd just offer him coffee at home..... I ain't spending 6 bucks on a dead President

 

[autococker07]

Probably Jefferson, but he'd probably want to read up on me some before we meet... so that he can develop some questions for me. I don't want him to just set there and stare at me as I smoke and drink my coffee.

He would be speechless at your humility

 

[puff_not_snuff]

Jefferson, but not at Starbucks, I'd just offer him coffee at home..... I ain't spending 6 bucks on a dead President

Well, do you always just think about what you want when you meet someone? Have you considered that Jefferson might want to try a Starbucks pumpkin latte?

 

[autococker07]

Well, do you always just think about what you want when you meet someone? Have you considered that Jefferson might want to try a Starbucks pumpkin latte?

Of course not, I may even give the man a ride in my horse-less carrige ? Otherwise he can hop his happy hiney down there and barter for one.....

 

[puff_not_snuff]

Of course not, I may even give the man a ride in my horse-lees carrige ? Otherwise he can hop his happy hiney down there and barter for one.....

Well, considering he was 100k in debt when he died can you at least give him enough coin for a frappe and a cake pop?

 

[autococker07]

Well, considering he was 100k in debt when he died can you at least give him enough coin for a frappe and a cake pop?

Nah, if he can come back to life he can wash some dishes...... I would be happy to house him (if he doesn't stink from rot and will agree to daily showers) and feed him temporarily, but he ain't getting no fancy overpriced coffee out of me

Geez, I wonder if Adams may be the less needy choice?

 

[Streeper541]

I would have loved the opportunity to pick Jefferson's brain.

 

[puff_not_snuff]

Nah, if he can come back to life he can wash some dishes...... I would be happy to house him (if he doesn't stink from rot and will agree to daily showers) and feed him temporarily, but he ain't getting no fancy overpriced coffee out of me

Geez, I wonder if Adams may be the less needy choice?

Not so sure, Adams seemed to of suffered great insecurity over not being publicly appreciated while alive so you might spend the afternoon repeatedly telling him how great he is. It would kinda be like being married to him for a day.

 

[autococker07]

Not so sure, Adams seemed to of suffered great insecurity over not being publicly appreciated while alive so you might spend the afternoon repeatedly telling him how great he is. It would kinda be like being married to him for a day.

On a serious note, its amazing that any of the founding fathers could doubt their contribution to our republic, yet it serves to remind us that they were, at their core, simply men.

Back on the funny train, I don't think my wife would be crazy about my one day marriage to a dead ex president.... but if he nagged me enough, she may acquiesce.

 

[sablebrush52]

Adams, faults and all, he was a lot more real.

 

[puff_not_snuff]

On a serious note, its amazing that any of the founding fathers could doubt their contribution to our republic, yet it serves to remind us that they were, at their core, simply men.

Back on the funny train, I don't think my wife would be crazy about my one day marriage to a dead ex president.... but if he nagged me enough, she may acquiesce.

Yea, it is amazing, despite a person's contributions to [whatever] no matter how tangible or profound they might be it doesn't mean that their isn't a lingering insecurity behind the curtains.

 

[mso489]

Adams was pretty starchy, rather stiff. But Jefferson could be aloof. I guess I'd choose Jefferson, thinking that his breadth of interests might intersect some of my own. However, if I wanted financial advice, Adams would be my man.

 

[puff_not_snuff]

Adams was pretty starchy, rather stiff. But Jefferson could be aloof. I guess I'd choose Jefferson, thinking that his breadth of interests might intersect some of my own.

Yes, this is my thinking as well. Jefferson is very much an enigma and while he might not say much whatever he did would likely be worth remembering.

 

[jguss]

Adams, faults and all, he was a lot more real.

Agreed. Jefferson was a devious son of a bitch who I wouldn't trust as far as I could throw. Even setting my distaste for Jefferson as a human being aside Adams interests me much more.