Is a Peterson System Standard Better Than Other Pipes in its Price Range?

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Mar 13, 2020
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I like System pipes. They're not all I smoke, but they do come out often. I think it's just one of those things that you'll have to try and see for yourself if you like it or not. They are definitely not for everyone.
 
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RPK

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Yes. My 314 could easily be my only pipe I own.
I have two and I tend to agree with you and I prefer the p-lip.

Also, I clean my pipes after each smoke with a pipe cleaner, paper towel in the bowl, q-tip in the reservoir. It takes just a minute and occasionally obsidian oil on the stem, if needed. I don't consider it a chore maintaining them in nice condition always ready for the next smoke. puffy
 

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Lifer
Oct 13, 2021
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Couldn't really explain how I got to this point other than my personal trial & error, but P-lips are all I'll actively purchase for the last year or so now. For me it was the biggest game changer and I often regret trying one of my fishtails unless I focus a lot more on doing everything "just right" for my tongue and mucosal membranes.
It's more important to me than the "system" with a chamber and provides me with an advantage I appreciate, even in the models with no reservoir. But I've dozens with the full "system".
Not trying to tell anyone they're better, just that they happen to be better for me.
In the end, I'm happy I found what works so well for me and wish the same for others.
 
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khiddy

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I've become a huge fan of Peterson System pipes. I've not tried a deluxe nor spigot, but I'm very happy with the five Standard Systems that I own, with all except the newest one being estate pipes. My very first new Pete arrived last week, one of the reintroduced 309's, in a rusticated finish that has a fantastic feel in the hand. I have yet to load a bowl in it, as it's been colder than a witch's... well, it's been cold. But tonight's the night!

When it comes to the stem debate of P-Lip vs. Fishtail, I've said it before and I'll say it again: buying a System with a Fishtail is like getting a Maserati to haul your baby around. It has all the eye-catching looks, but you'll never experience the full performance for which it was designed.
 
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Lifer
Oct 13, 2021
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I've become a huge fan of Peterson System pipes. I've not tried a deluxe nor spigot, but I'm very happy with the five Standard Systems that I own, with all except the newest one being estate pipes. My very first new Pete arrived last week, one of the reintroduced 309's, in a rusticated finish that has a fantastic feel in the hand. I have yet to load a bowl in it, as it's been colder than a witch's... well, it's been cold. But tonight's the night!

When it comes to the stem debate of P-Lip vs. Fishtail, I've said it before and I'll say it again: buying a System with a Fishtail is like getting a Maserati to haul your baby around. It has all the eye-catching looks, but you'll never experience the full performance for which it was designed.
Well you could go for it and give the kid whiplash.
Toughen 'em up...
 
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maybe adds 10 seconds to the overall pipe cleaning routine. Q-tips work but a bent pipe cleaner works just as well.
I mean while I'm smoking. After I'm done I don't mind taking apart the pipe and cleaning it. But while I smoke I like being able to put a pipe cleaner through. One some of the p-lips that's a pain in the ass to do.
 

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Lifer
Oct 13, 2021
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I mean while I'm smoking. After I'm done I don't mind taking apart the pipe and cleaning it. But while I smoke I like being able to put a pipe cleaner through. One some of the p-lips that's a pain in the ass to do.
Something that actually should be eliminated if using a system...
But an army mount goes in & out so easily...
 

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Lifer
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Something that actually should be eliminated if using a system...
But an army mount goes in & out so easily...
The problem is partly psychological for me, at least in earlier years...if I thought of a pipe having a 'system' to make a drier smoke I would inevitably smoke a litter faster/hotter, just subconsciously. So I would find these system Petes filled up with sloppy gunk which did not happen in my regular drilled briars.

I think nowadays I smoke more or less the same through all my pipes, hotter/faster is more to do with running uphill with a bag of cement etc.
 
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Sicut_Incensum

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You need to try "different" if you're so inclined, and forget the elusive "better".
Very well stated. I may go a week slavishly smoking only my Pete systems and raving over the smoke each time, but eventually I am going to want to break out my vintage Brigham or corncob churchwarden or perhaps my treasured genuine calabash. Even if you don't suffer from the mental illness known as "collecting", it's nice to have a small rotation. Definitely worthing have at least one System to compare to whatever else you smoke. And if you decide you don't like it I'll take it off your hands, free of charge!
 
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Apr 22, 2018
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Here's a link that will educate about the Pete system pipes.

Try a system pipe loaded with Standard Mixture

Well worth a read before lighting up a Peterson System pipe. Understanding how the P Lip and the System work and the additional minor disciplines required of the smoker were key to me forty five years after first rejecting the P Lip, and as a consequence the System resulted in me two weeks after recently buying a new old stock 303 Premier purchasing three more P Lip System pipes.

In more than fifty years of pipe smoking I have not enjoyed pipe tobacco as much as I do now in my System pipes although I will admit to still being very nervous of removing the stem from a hot briar to allow the liquid build up in the System collection sump to drain out which I do however find immensely satisfying to watch.

Cleaning, allowing the briar to dry by resting in a disassembled state are essential and of course four System pipes is never going to be enough so now I can excuse myself my next proposed purchase of at least three more true System pipes that must be P Lipped with the internally graduated stem and have a condenser/chimney to make up a seven day set although ideally I would multiply that number many times more to allow for longer pipe resting. It’ll never end🤔
 
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Lifer
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In more than fifty years of pipe smoking I have not enjoyed pipe tobacco as much as I do now in my System pipes

Awesome

although I will admit to still being very nervous of removing the stem from a hot briar to allow the liquid build up in the System collection sump to drain out which I do however find immensely satisfying to watch.

I don't let it drain out. That implies it has an opportunity to roll all the way up the side, imbuing stinky-ness up the side of said chamber when otherwise it would have never touched it. Personally I prefer to insert a twisted napkin / paper towel deep into the chamber and invert it while cleaning out the dottle. Most of the liquid is absorbed into the paper without gunking up any other of the internal briar... The last remnants can be gotten out with the tip of the cleaner.

Cleaning, allowing the briar to dry by resting in a disassembled state are essential

By the time I've done the above I don't feel the need to let it rest dis-assembled. But I do keep a little dropper of Everclear and I'll put a couple drops into the reservoir and insert stem and place back on rack in upright position. The alcohol seems to help decrease need of "deep" cleaning.
 
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