Iconic Movies that Disappoint.

[Gimlet]

I watched Casablanca in a bar in Casablanca called Rick's Cafe that looked exactly like the movie set.

Of all the joints in all the towns in all the world, you had to walk into that one..

 

[ashdigger]

Anything is overrated if your base experience is different than the target audience.

All of the current batch of superhero movies to me are ridiculous and unwatchable.

So this is just my perspective as yours is your perspective.

 

[Streeper541]

"Iconic" movies that have a lot of hype but let me down...

Blade Runner
Star Wars: Episode I
Easy Rider
Napoleon Dynamite
It: Chapter Two
The Godfather
The Hobbit
Spiderman (Toby Maguire)
Joker

 

[tracerbullet]

Bogie, film noir? What movies are such that he's in? Or how do you define "film noir"?

“film noir, (French: “dark film”) style of filmmaking characterized by such elements as cynical heroes, stark lighting effects, frequent use of flashbacks, intricate plots, and an underlying existentialist philosophy. The genre was prevalent mostly in American crime dramas of the post-World War II era.”

pretty much everything Bogey did during that time frame

 

[Green Hill Hermit]

I love a good ghost film. Not Hollywood monster/vampire/boogie man slasher films which I find ludicrous, invariably like something out of a comic strip, but properly creepy supernatural films where less is more. The Blair Witch Project being a case in point.
A credible and genuinely unsettling ghost story must be one of the most difficult genres to write well and equally difficult to film. My current favourite ghost film is probably the 2012 remake of The Woman in Black. That was taken from Susan Hill's 1980's novella and I would consider her a children's writer but the film takes it beyond the realm of children's fiction while staying faithful to the original story line.

If anything, the film ramps up the tension to higher levels than the book, the key to it being that the main character has no idea what he is getting himself into and the film manages to impart the same sense of dawning dread in the viewer despite the fact that we know more than the character does because it's a film and we've read the back story. Suspension of disbelief handled adroitly. And the way they treat the phantom and recreate the oppressive atmosphere inside the old house is exemplary. The jump-scares are predictable (though highly effective..) but altogether it's a genuinely and extremely creepy watch while remaining a slightly tongue-in-cheek period romp at the same time.

I could fill a page with failed ghost films that are just risible but, for that reason, few of them would count as iconic. I think some of the best ghost films are Japanese, maybe because culturally the Japanese take the supernatural very seriously. The Grudge is a good one.

Agree, Blair witch was original and terrifying. Paranormal activity is also one other supernatural movie that hits hard in the look between your fingers way.

 

[trouttimes]

The Godfather
All the Indiana Jones movies
Most porn

 

[Gimlet]

Agree, Blair witch was original and terrifying. Paranormal activity is also one other supernatural movie that hits hard in the look between your fingers way.

Yes, Paranormal Activity is highly effective. A masterclass in conjouring suspense and extreme foreboding from very simple elements. A clever film.

 

[Gimlet]

The Godfather
All the Indiana Jones movies
Most porn

Most..?

 

[SBC]

"Iconic" movies that have a lot of hype but let me down...

Blade Runner
Star Wars: Episode I
Easy Rider
Napoleon Dynamite
It: Chapter Two
The Godfather
The Hobbit
Spiderman (Toby Maguire)
Joker

Your mom goes to college.

 

[jpmcwjr]

“film noir, (French: “dark film”) style of filmmaking characterized by such elements as cynical heroes, stark lighting effects, frequent use of flashbacks, intricate plots, and an underlying existentialist philosophy. The genre was prevalent mostly in American crime dramas of the post-World War II era.”

pretty much everything Bogey did during that time frame

Right you are. I was too focussed on the dark aspect, thinking someone or more had to be killed, which the two main Bogie films I was thinking of are pretty much absent murders. Probably watching too many Brit whodunnit's.

Source of quote? And thanks for setting me- and us- straight.

 

[Streeper541]

Your mom goes to college.

Hey fool... My momma ain't not astronaut!

 

[ashdigger]

Star Wars: Episode I

I saw Episode IV A New Hope, 11 times when it first came out.

I’d leave a showing and get right back in line.

Fun fact: it made every installment after that unwatchable.

Weird how things work.

 

[bullet08]

I saw Episode IV A New Hope, 11 times when it first came out.

I’d leave a showing and get right back in line.

Fun fact: it made every installment after that unwatchable.

Weird how things work.

Didn't like the episode V? Between IV and V, I can't decide which one was better.

 

[bullet08]

When someone says cult classic, my mind automatically remembers two titles. "Deepthroat" and "Behind the Green Door". I mean, there are others like "Debbie Does Dallas" and so one. But who's got time to see porn when some French flicks are rated PG and has enough titties.

Honest truth is, I watch movies to kill time. And I enjoyed most movies I've seen. Not sure what would be considered cult classic, but seen most mentioned here and enjoyed them. My favorite two not mentioned yet are "Big Trouble In Little China", and Monty Python's "Holy Grail". But honestly, any Monty Python movies. Silly, but good laugh will always win over overanalyzing movies when one hasn't spoken to the people who made the movie. It's like trying to guess at next lottery numbers. Remember, there are winners.

 

[autumnfog]

Tarantino movies seems more ironic than iconic.
Stylized ultra-splatter-violence and quirky references to b-movies from the seventies.
I wouldn't say it's bad or that I leave the film disappointed, but it feels more like showing off coolness than telling a story.

 

[JOHN72]

Disappointing movies, as well as disappointing actors. The Shining is one of my favorite movies. I see myself reflected with the actor, but much more with the character. I even have a ham knife in the drawer of my nightstand....

 

[Gimlet]

Disappointing movies, as well as disappointing actors. The Shining is one of my favorite movies. I see myself reflected with the actor, but much more with the character. I even have a ham knife in the drawer of my nightstand....
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Have you tried to murder your wife with a fire axe recently?

 

[tracerbullet]

Right you are. I was too focussed on the dark aspect, thinking someone or more had to be killed, which the two main Bogie films I was thinking of are pretty much absent murders. Probably watching too many Brit whodunnit's.

Source of quote? And thanks for setting me- and us- straight.

That quote came from Brittanica. However if you search the web, the theme is roughly the same

 

[HawkeyeLinus]

pretty much everything Bogey did during that time frame

Actually not - his noirs span pre-war and well into post-war with plenty of other films. But I'd venture the titles of the noirs might be more recognizable.

 

[HawkeyeLinus]

Right you are. I was too focussed on the dark aspect, thinking someone or more had to be killed, which the two main Bogie films I was thinking of are pretty much absent murders. Probably watching too many Brit whodunnit's.

If you want some great noir look into British film noir and sample some of the movies - there are some great ones.

When you get the chance "Noir Alley" which runs on TCM is a good source for info and insight. My favorite Bogart films that are noirs are "Key Largo" and "In a Lonely Place" - if they are on, can't turn 'em off, lol, and I've aways been a sucker for Gloria Grahame. By far my favorite movie genre and "a lot going on there" with many of the films.