How Much Cellar Tobacco is Too Much?......or Is It?

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Lifer
May 20, 2023
1,696
2,792
54
Connecticut (shade leaf tobacco country)
Last count I think I've stashed may 40 or 45 lbs give or take. Hard to keep track. I will stop buying large quantities around 75 or so pounds and only the occasional new blend if it sounds unique enough. Figure 75 lbs should last 25 years on its own and if buy a bit here and there over those years should be in tobacco for my lifetime. Then like Willie said, roll me up and smoke me when I die.
 

wyfbane

Lifer
Apr 26, 2013
5,800
7,473
Tennessee
Although I don't know an exact number, I probably have stashed close to the hundred pound mark or more. still adding to that.

What's too much? Like others have said, that will depend on you and your specific situation.

When I think of too much, I am sure I am in the minority. I cellared with the thought that if my son takes up a pipe, he will have enough for a reasonable cellar of his own, when I am gone.
 

boston

Part of the Furniture Now
Jun 27, 2018
570
1,310
Boston
I've not done an inventory in years, but a few years back I started thinking...I have enough. Like others, more than I need, but that's because I buy in threes, maybe try one, and then move on in search of grail tobaccos. Sometimes I don't even try a blend...just never got to it. I've probably not tried 40% of them. I wasn't thinking "hoarding"...just 20+ years of collecting.

How much is too much? You'll know it when you see it. Now I believe that good va's and vapers will age and get better. Latakia and oriental blends soften, or so I'm told. For me that's fine, I've come to prefer softer rather than "hit me with flavor" blends.

And while I don't generally sell tobacco, I have done so a few times via Steve Fallon (pipestud), and I can tell you....some appreciate in value quite a bit. You probably won't lose money buying top shelf blends if you choose to sell them.

By the way I did find grail blends for me. Frog on a log and 1792 are a couple. I love Xmas cheer. I really like krumble kake, but heck those tins are worth $200+ each...which is bonkers. I sold a lot of those through Steve.

It's a hobby. Stop buying when it's not fun anymore. Or when you start running out of space.

One more thing...store them carefully. Too humid a celler can rust some tins.
 

Jester69

Might Stick Around
Jul 24, 2024
88
396
Madison, MS
When I think of too much, I am sure I am in the minority. I cellared with the thought that if my son takes up a pipe, he will have enough for a reasonable cellar of his own, when I am gone.
I’m taking the same approach. I have two sons that have taken up smoking pipes. We enjoy hanging out together smoking pipes and talking about different things. They will have plenty when I’m gone.
 

Brad H

Can't Leave
Dec 17, 2024
331
2,382
shamefully, not enough.
I probably have around 30-40 pounds. This is mainly due to limited space.
30-40 pounds is enough for me, until its not enough. So more is always the better and safer answer.
I would have less if the market didn't just take a crap by discontinuing brands.
I would have more if I had more storage room...... gotta find a happy medium, which is always more.
 

craig61a

Lifer
Apr 29, 2017
6,191
53,128
Minnesota USA
I’ve been cellaring for years. I have too much… buying stuff like I lost my mind.

Oh look… 20% off C&D.

Loosing Sutliff was kind of a shock. I’ve been smoking Sutliff products for a long time. And they had a great selection for blending my own.

I’ve backed off on pipe smoking lately. I find that I enjoy blends more if I’m not smoking them quite as much if that makes any sense.

Buying tobacco now is a hedge against higher future prices if nothing else.
 

krizzose

Lifer
Feb 13, 2013
3,461
22,067
Michigan
I’ve got about 20% more than I what I would need for the rest of my life (actuarially speaking 🤞) at my current smoking rate. I still buy occasionally, mainly new releases, to pad my stock of certain blends, and to bounce around the ever-evolving KBV stable. The McClelland experience got me cellaring in earnest over the past several years. Luckily that has made the very sad end of Mac Baren and Sutliff irrelevant to my needs, though still a tragedy.
 

Skippy Piper

Part of the Furniture Now
Jun 19, 2023
744
8,887
St. Paul, MN
In practical terms I think how much to cellar really depends on what you like to smoke, how much of it you smoke, and how long it'll keep.

Virginias will last a good 20 years and generally only improve with age, and while Burleys don't improve a lot from aging they should last just as long so feel free to stock up on as much as you think you can smoke in the next 20 years.

English blends with Latakia last a good long time too, though the flavor strength of the Latakia will diminish significantly around the 10 year mark so I wouldn't cellar more than you plan on smoking in 10 years time.

Aromatics are where things get tricky, because there are some aromatics that are heavily laden with propylene glycol (Lane and Sutliff blends, Captain Black, Cult Blood Red Moon, etc.) that acts as a preservative and will help them retain the flavor of their topping for a good 2 or 3 years. Other blends with less or no PG from companies like Peter Stokkebye or Cornell & Diehl may only last a year before the topping flavor starts to vanish, or worse goes rancid.

I once had a well sealed jar of C&D Autumn Evening that had turned utterly rancid and sour smelling and tasting after just a year in the cellar, and all my Peter Stokkebye blends I cellared away were almost flavorless after a year sealed up in Ball jars. So, results will vary significantly when it comes to aromatics but in general I'd say 3 to 5 years for the wetter stuff and about 1 year for the aromatics with less preservatives.

Lastly there's Lakelands, which as a sub-class of aromatics can vary a lot too. I've read reports of the tonquin topping on Samuel Gawith 1792 Flake almost completely vanishing after 5 years in the cellar, but I also have some Bosun Plug and Grousemoor Plug that have 9 years of age on them and still seem to be just as flavorful as a freshly made batch. If you can I'd say go for plugs instead of flakes or ribbon cut blends when it comes to Lakelands, since they seem to retain their scenting much longer. At worst you're probably looking at 5 years for flakes and ribbon cut blends, but plugs should keep a good 10 years easily.


Hope that helps! :)
 

Snook

Part of the Furniture Now
Oct 2, 2019
712
3,537
Idaho
I'm up to 82.2 pounds all told. By my estimation, I'll need about 150 pounds total if I expect to have a bowl a day for another 60 years. My plan (for now) is to bulk up on my existing favorites until I reach about 120. Then I'll resume normal ordering, buying a few blends here and there, just to try new things and see if there are others that I want to cellar. I also want to reach a point where I'm placing smaller and more regular monthly orders just to support businesses and the hobby. I wouldn't want to just place one more huge order to get to 150 and then call it good, you know?
 
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VDL_Piper

Lifer
Jun 4, 2021
1,825
17,135
Springfield Nuclear Power Plant
Sage advice here from someone who really does know all about cellaring. Of a Certain Age - https://pipesmagazine.com/blog/fireside/of-a-certain-age/

My advice is "do it" with good tobacco's regardless of them being Virginias or English or anything else for that matter. You might be surprised!
For me, well I can't count that high wish shoes and socks on but to be succinct, you never have enough.
 

Deano

Part of the Furniture Now
Dec 28, 2022
556
6,635
Iowa
I have no idea how much I have. I have a lower cupboard with jars stacked 2 deep. A desk drawer full with tins stacked 4 deep. A little cupboard below the drawer with more tins. And 21 jars im smoking out of. At 68 years old I probably have enough. But in case I live forever I keep buying. 🤔
 

jpberg

Lifer
Aug 30, 2011
3,375
8,352
About 5 years ago I came across a flat of quart jars of Margate, and one of Bill Baileys Balkan Blend.
Stacked on top of those were four quart jars of Comptons blends.
I don’t really smoke any of those anymore- used to really love them.
I’ve been slowly sending them out to guys who enjoy them. So I’m glad I had them to give out, but it got me thinking about how nutty I was putting stuff away from 2000-2010ish.
There wasn’t really a lot of thought put into it, everyone else was doing it so I did as well.
Another point, I’ve got about 50 pounds of Dark Plug, and 30 of Dark Flake, and spent a helluva lot of money getting it. Now you can call anybody and it’s in stock whenever you want some.
There’s very little science or common sense, and a lot of money involved in hoarding. I don’t have many regrets, and in hindsight I wouldn’t have done much differently, but still…..
 

VDL_Piper

Lifer
Jun 4, 2021
1,825
17,135
Springfield Nuclear Power Plant
About 5 years ago I came across a flat of quart jars of Margate, and one of Bill Baileys Balkan Blend.
Stacked on top of those were four quart jars of Comptons blends.
I don’t really smoke any of those anymore- used to really love them.
I’ve been slowly sending them out to guys who enjoy them. So I’m glad I had them to give out, but it got me thinking about how nutty I was putting stuff away from 2000-2010ish.
There wasn’t really a lot of thought put into it, everyone else was doing it so I did as well.
Another point, I’ve got about 50 pounds of Dark Plug, and 30 of Dark Flake, and spent a helluva lot of money getting it. Now you can call anybody and it’s in stock whenever you want some.
There’s very little science or common sense, and a lot of money involved in hoarding. I don’t have many regrets, and in hindsight I wouldn’t have done much differently, but still…..
Ahh yes but blends change........that 25 year old Dark Plug is all wrong now.