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Dec 6, 2019
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It seems to me (again someone with no dog in the race) that this is the same thing the people on the other side are doing with this Bob Greg guy lol. Maybe he was pushed out. Maybe he got pissed up on scotch and assaulted someone in the lunchroom lol.. when it comes to private companies it comes down to he said she said.
And as I said since I don't have a time machine all I can do is judge present products on their present metrics. Maybe some of this stuff isn't fair. Maybe due to the shrinking nature of our hobby we're gonna have to either choose to play with not fair more often or pick up our marbles go home and start vaping. P&C never reimbursing me for a $150 pipe i returned wasn't fair. But at the end of the day they're the only people left with Magnum opus in stock and it's one of my top blends so guess who's getting my money still til its discontinued? Lol
Maybe I can make up the $150 selling my extras on tinbids to the stubborn codgers who stuck their head in the sand and refused to believe stg was closing any factories up til last week 😂 the world is a wild place

I don't know anything about that Bob stuff.

I'm just talking about this idea that people from the tobacco industry have to be treated with kid gloves, or they might leave.

Even if they shoot you a line of obvious BS, you're the asshole if you question it.

"How dare you question the great and powerful memebers of the tobacco industry?" They say.
 

wyfbane

Lifer
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Jesus christ I guess I should just stop smoking a pipe... now I find out that all the GH tobacco I've been enjoying is fake and I haven't really been enjoying it because "iT's n0T tEh pRe-2018 GH!!¡?!" What a futile exercise this hobby has become... WHAT MORE GROSS TRAVESTIES OF JUSTICE SHALL I UNCOVER NEXT??!? 🤣🫠
Apparently Sutliff 507C Virginia Slices is nothing more than STG made Stokkebye Luxury Navy Flake.
 
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Chasing Embers

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It seems to me (again someone with no dog in the race) that this is the same thing the people on the other side are doing with this Bob Greg guy lol. Maybe he was pushed out. Maybe he got pissed up on scotch and assaulted someone in the lunchroom lol.. when it comes to private companies it comes down to he said she said.
And as I said since I don't have a time machine all I can do is judge present products on their present metrics. Maybe some of this stuff isn't fair. Maybe due to the shrinking nature of our hobby we're gonna have to either choose to play with not fair more often or pick up our marbles go home and start vaping. I'm in the contracting business.. if I stopped dealing with customers and suppliers and architect firms and local govts etc etc that didn't treat me fair I'd be out of business. Principle is a great thing but it doesn't pay the heating bill.

P&C never reimbursing me for a $150 pipe i returned wasn't fair. But at the end of the day they're the only people left with Magnum opus in stock and it's one of my top blends so guess who's getting my money still til its discontinued? Lol
Maybe I can make up the $150 selling my extras on tinbids to the stubborn codgers who stuck their head in the sand and refused to believe stg was closing any factories up til last week 😂 the world is a wild place
Obsequiousness seems to be running amok on this thread so peace be with you and blessed be.
 
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I get an image of an old dude on the night shift just peppering the shit out of the tobacco with "the sauce". Tired and curmudgeony, he knows its the good stuff and he is going to give it to us.

I miss that guy. Find that guy and put him back on the night shift. The people that don't like the sauce like it 0% sauce. The majority of lakeland lovers prefer the night shift guy... that I just made up... but you know what I mean.

Is that what Bob did? Was Bob the sauce man?
 
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Jesus christ I guess I should just stop smoking a pipe... now I find out that all the GH tobacco I've been enjoying is fake and I haven't really been enjoying it because "iT's n0T tEh pRe-2018 GH!!¡?!" What a futile exercise this hobby has become... WHAT MORE GROSS TRAVESTIES OF JUSTICE SHALL I UNCOVER NEXT??!? 🤣🫠
Every product blended today is worse than the product blended yesterday. And as you get older, you get to complain about the blends blended yesterday because you were around the day before yesterday.

That’s the cyclical repeat from all of the grumpy people on all blends of all time.
 

telescopes

Pipe Dreamer and Star Gazer
After all the sh$t given to Ernie about his naming a blend, The Bipolar Express - and the rants about how insensitive that was…. And all the rants about how he as a owner should know better…. The message is clear … there may be Butts, but around here, the butt- hurts out number the butts. 😊
 
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telescopes

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I imagine a lot happens on third shift. When I worked for Vess Soda many many years ago, a lot happened around me on third shift. Some times, if a guy liked the soda with bit more secret sauce, secret sauce was increased during the shift. Those days are now gone with automation. I can imagine a soda forum where the posters are all complaining the recipe for the soda has been changed… unaware that some dude named Doug Bob juiced the nights production for years. With a greater emphasis on quality controls, I imagine even the additives for the toppings have been normalized by the suppliers as has been previously pointed out. Life moves on and so does production. When the legend becomes truth , print the legend.
 
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BlueRidge

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I have some BCF over ten years old. Naturally the small percentage of Latakia has faded almost entirely.

I’m left with an outstanding tobacco even if it’s not recognizable as Bob’s. Whatever their source tobacco is is just that good. Probably STG jkjk

I’m smoking GH/SG from the mid twenty teens and from 2022 to present. If some of my older classic Lakelands fade I’ll still be left with quality leaf.

The popular blends used to be so hard to score, at least in the US that I’d imagine many people have pounds jarred up. If supply was like it seems to be now, better, I would have bought less tobacco but more frequently. That is an interesting point brought up to help a small blender.
 

gawithhoggarth

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He wanted to keep things as they were. New management had other plans.
LOL! Although I suppose you could say that - you know in a 'new management' actually wanted to do things legally kind of way and keep the business going, ensure the company and legacy carried on, not constantly lose money, new management wanted to make good quality tobacco not stuff that was constantly going mouldy...... If only all those Bob fans actually knew 1% of the truth and what really went on........You certainly would not have the the number of blends available in the USA or the quantity or regularity of the blends if your infamous Bob was still involved. In fact if there was not new management we'd probably have very few staff left to make the tobacco, would be tied up in numerous HR law suits as well as shut down by the government for not being compliant and meeting regulations, not to mention the company would have been run into the ground.

So he was the sauce man.

He was a believer in the Bob Method, not to be confused with the Frank Method.

No, Bob had practically nothing to do with production. And given that the one most people are saying is less saucy is Ennerdale and that is a GH product and nothing to do with SG or the merger...........