HARDCASTLE’S Jack O’London 127 Pipes.

[Yuval]

Hello
Can someone give me an opinion on HARDCASTLE’S Jack O’London 127 pipes.
From the 1930s. According to Dunhill they bought them.

 

[buzkirk]

Hardcastle are great pipes

 

[saltedplug]

If I'm not mistaken Dunhill had 2 or 3 pipe subsidiaries to which they accorded indeterminate status as regards the general quality the acquired company would support. Perhaps that was so because they themselves variably assigned which pipes they would sell under their name, Dunhill. and which would be sold by the others. Hardcastle is one of the others and by this respected.

 

[Yuval]

Hardcastle are great pipes

Hi
thank you for the answer. At what level of pipes would you put that pipe? Like Castello and Tom Elgant?

 

[Yuval]

If I'm not mistaken Dunhill had 2 or 3 pipe subsidiaries to which they accorded indeterminate status as regards the general quality the acquired company would support. Perhaps that was so because they themselves variably assigned which pipes they would sell under their name, Dunhill. and which would be sold by the others. Hardcastle is one of the others and by this respected.

thank you for the answer.
Today it is a company owned by Dunhill. According to the seller, the pipe from the 1930s or 1940s. Before Dunhill bought them. Today the level of pipes has dropped (according to what I was told), but in the past how were they?

 

[Yuval]

If I'm not mistaken Dunhill had 2 or 3 pipe subsidiaries to which they accorded indeterminate status as regards the general quality the acquired company would support. Perhaps that was so because they themselves variably assigned which pipes they would sell under their name, Dunhill. and which would be sold by the others. Hardcastle is one of the others and by this respected.

This is the pipe - Unsmoked family era HARDCASTLE'S Jack O' London 127 English lovat pipe | eBay - https://www.ebay.com/itm/Unsmoked-family-era-HARDCASTLES-Jack-O-London-127-English-lovat-pipe/184304233918?hash=item2ae9636dbe:g:kMAAAOSwvWZeypGH

 

[greeneyes]

I have never paid $150 for a Hardcastle. It's not that some of them aren't worth the price, but that they can be found for more affordable prices relatively easily. Every Hardcastle I've ever purchased has been between $10 and $40. I believe I own 4 or 5.

Please also be aware that there is a current production of "Hardcastle" that's quite economical, and although I haven't smoked one, I'd guess the quality is somewhat beneath the older ones like the one you reference.

Having searched eBay now I found a few examples of good Hardcastle pipes for much less.

 

[seanv]

I had one but it didn't smoke right for me. I ended up trading it for a chacom I think. I think i would buy another without hesitation if it fit my criteria.

 

[jpmcwjr]

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[ofafeather]

This is the pipe - Unsmoked family era HARDCASTLE'S Jack O' London 127 English lovat pipe | eBay - https://www.ebay.com/itm/Unsmoked-family-era-HARDCASTLES-Jack-O-London-127-English-lovat-pipe/184304233918?hash=item2ae9636dbe:g:kMAAAOSwvWZeypGH

Here’s a link with some info on Hardcastle. Hardcastle - Pipedia - https://pipedia.org/wiki/Hardcastle

I think the difficulty here is collectible value. The majority of Dunhill era hardcastle pipes are decent quality, considered Dunhill seconds but I’m not familiar with pre-Dunhill Hardcastles, which clearly do exist. This may be something for a collector more than a smoker. Maybe @pipestud can provide more context. Typically family-era pipes from most major brands that existed then are sought after. Barling, Sasieni, etc. Some would swear by their legendary smoking characteristics but I don’t really know enough to say if that would apply here. If it were a Barling or Sasieni of the same pedigree it would fetch quite a price.

 

[BasketCase]

I LOVE the early Hardcastles, and that one looks to be in very good condition. I think in general they perform above their estate-price-point. For reference, I have an early(ish) Jack O'London, Royal Windsor Sandhewn, Drawel, and Camden. All of them smoke well and have a kind of middle-class, bowler hat, everyman-tool vibe about them.

One thing I note from the advert, and was going to ask about, is how they can date it to that time period?

However, that seems to be a very high asking price given that there are higher grades of early Hardcastle available for ~1/3 of that price (in the UK at least!). I guess if it were unsmoked with original packaging etc then that might bump the price up considerably as it is nearly 100 years old! The grain also looks to be very pretty. Just my tuppence!

 

[mso489]

Hardcastle, Parker, and maybe others are owned by Dunhill, but don't think of them as seconds. They are good pipes and smokers, but don't fall for the old trope. I was once sold a Britannia at a Tinder Box with a fan dance about how it could be a Dunhill second. I knew it wasn't, but it looked good, I bought it, and it's been great for years.

 

[Yuval]

[QUOTE = "סלסלת סל, הודעה: 36162195, חבר: 22352"]
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דבר אחד שאני מציין מהפרסומת, והייתי מתכוון לשאול, הוא איך הם יכולים לצאת איתו לתקופת הזמן ההיא?

עם זאת, נראה כי מדובר במחיר מבוקש מאוד בהתחשב בכך שיש דרגות גבוהות יותר של הרקדאסל המוקדמות עבור ~ 1/3 מהמחיר הזה (בבריטניה לפחות!). אני מניח שאם זה לא היה מעושן באריזות מקוריות וכו 'אז זה עשוי להעלות את המחיר בצורה משמעותית מכיוון שהוא כמעט בן 100 שנה! הדגן נראה גם יפה מאוד. רק השטף שלי!
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[Ahi Ka]

[QUOTE = "סלסלת סל, הודעה: 36162195, חבר: 22352"]
אני אוהב את הארדקאסטלס המוקדמים, ונראה כי זה במצב טוב מאוד. אני חושב שבאופן כללי הם מתפקדים מעל נקודת המחיר שלהם. לעיון, יש לי ג'ק אולונדון המוקדם (האיש), רויאל ווינדזור סנדהון, דרייוול וקמדן. כולם מעשנים היטב ויש להם סוג של כובע באולינג מהמעמד הבינוני, וכל אחד מהאומנות הכלים שלהם.

דבר אחד שאני מציין מהפרסומת, והייתי מתכוון לשאול, הוא איך הם יכולים לצאת איתו לתקופת הזמן ההיא?

עם זאת, נראה כי מדובר במחיר מבוקש מאוד בהתחשב בכך שיש דרגות גבוהות יותר של הרקדאסל המוקדמות עבור ~ 1/3 מהמחיר הזה (בבריטניה לפחות!). אני מניח שאם זה לא היה מעושן באריזות מקוריות וכו 'אז זה עשוי להעלות את המחיר בצורה משמעותית מכיוון שהוא כמעט בן 100 שנה! הדגן נראה גם יפה מאוד. רק השטף שלי!
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היי
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I agree.

 

[jensen]

I have 3 JOL pipes, 2 with no flaws and good grain and 1 with almost more putty than wood.
If you can get your hands on a De Luxe ( not special De Luxe) with hand cut stem you will get a real
Hardcastle.

 

[Yuval]

I have 3 JOL pipes, 2 with no flaws and good grain and 1 with almost more putty than wood.
If you can get your hands on a De Luxe ( not special De Luxe) with hand cut stem you will get a real
Hardcastle.

This pipe is good?
to look for Hardcastle De Luxe ?