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lawdawg

Lifer
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I disagree. Ever seen an alcoholic accomplish much? I mean a real alcoholic.

on the flip side there are some very successful people who are able to function using weed.

the people were lazy already... it’s got nothing to do with smoking.

Yes, I'm a lawyer and have known several high-functioning alcoholic lawyers who are excellent practitioners. Of course I'm not talking about wake-up-and-chug-vodka guys, but rather the three-drinks-at-lunch guys who keep bottles in their desks and drink after work every day, including at the office after business hours. It's pretty common in this profession, really. They'd probably characterize themselves as heavy drinkers, or even just alcohol connoisseurs, rather than alcoholics, though I'm not sure they could quit if they wanted to.

To be fair, I also know of at least two attorneys who have ruined their lives and careers over booze and drugs, though it's always involved a step to hard drugs. One of them got disbarred and is in prison. The other is one of the guys who inspired me to become an attorney. He got himself into trouble with cocaine, booze, and prescription drugs and died of a heart attack in his early 50's. He had some personal troubles that he did not address except with drug use, and it took the ultimate toll.
 

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Lifer
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Yes, I'm a lawyer and have known several high-functioning alcoholic lawyers who are excellent practitioners. Of course I'm not talking about wake-up-and-chug-vodka guys, but rather the three-drinks-at-lunch guys who keep bottles in their desks and drink after work every day, including at the office after business hours. It's pretty common in this profession, really. They'd probably characterize themselves as heavy drinkers, or even just alcohol connoisseurs, rather than alcoholics, though I'm not sure they could quit if they wanted to.

To be fair, I also know of at least two attorneys who have ruined their lives and careers over booze and drugs, though it's always involved a step to hard drugs. One of them got disbarred and is in prison. The other is one of the guys who inspired me to become an attorney. He got himself into trouble with cocaine, booze, and prescription drugs and died of a heart attack in his early 50's. He had some personal troubles that he did not address except with drug use, and it took the ultimate toll.
Right but for those three guys there are 6 guys you don’t know about taking 1 hitters lol
 
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lawdawg

Lifer
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Right but for those three guys there are 6 guys you don’t know about taking 1 hitters lol

True. All the young(ish) boozy lawyers I know smoke as well, at least on occasion, and I ain't talkin' 'bout 'baccy puffy
 
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On the Job site (construction) It was 50/50.. some guys we had to ban from smoking because they couldn't remember a measurement... others suffered from pain without it. Then there's the junkies, they work for cheap and look like they're getting something done.. wrong, they just speed around in circles. haha
 
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lawdawg

Lifer
Aug 25, 2016
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On the Job site (construction) It was 50/50.. some guys we had to ban from smoking because they couldn't remember a measurement... others suffered from pain without it. Then there's the junkies, they work for cheap and look like they're getting something done.. wrong, they just speed around in circles. haha

Unfortunately I would be one of the "can't remember a measurement" guys :LOL: Needless to say, I don't smoke much... turns me into a moron.
 
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I disagree. Ever seen an alcoholic accomplish much? I mean a real alcoholic.

on the flip side there are some very successful people who are able to function using weed.

the people were lazy already... it’s got nothing to do with smoking.

Actually, I can think of many examples: Hemingway, O’Neal, Faulkner... and that’s just this side of the pond.
 
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Churchill on the other.. woke up drinking he admitted.

It’s obviously a crutch but human existence sort of sets up to need vices and often self destructive distractions to elevate stress, oddly drunkenness can add insight once sober. I can’t say I make much sense when drunk or it makes me a more interesting person at the time but when I’m able to step away from it, I do feel I have learned things at times even if I can’t rememberer much of the conversations I’ve had.
 
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