Guns!

Log in

SmokingPipes.com Updates

Watch for Updates Twice a Week

PipesMagazine Approved Sponsor

PipesMagazine Approved Sponsor

PipesMagazine Approved Sponsor

PipesMagazine Approved Sponsor

PipesMagazine Approved Sponsor

Status
Not open for further replies.

tobyducote

Lifer
Jun 10, 2012
1,204
3
New Orleans
Here are a few of my handguns...plenty more but had this pic handy
48c781e620eb3a82066b0061182b8c2c_zps0b6ca4df.jpg


 

msandoval858

Part of the Furniture Now
Jun 11, 2012
954
3
Austin, TX
Not being argumentative, but rather genuinely curious: what about the Glock trigger safety is "bullshit"?
Maybe my statement was a little too harsh on Glock. I don't dislike the design of the trigger as much as I do the false sense of security it provides as a "safety." I get that they promote it as a mechanism that has to be deliberately engaged for the trigger to fire the weapon and help minimize a negligent discharge scenario. However, in dry firing my Glocks and experimenting with finger placement and feel of the trigger, it's clear it doesn't do a whole lot in terms of being a safety. That being said, I'd rather have it on there than not. I just think that anyone who purchases one needs to keep it mind that it is not a true safety and remain mindful of proper firearm discipline.
Simnetpratt makes a great point about carrying a custom firearm for self defense. In any scenario that, God forbid, you are forced to use your firearm, the police will take it until all the legal fallout is over. There's a chance you may never see that gun again. Also, you never want to make modifications to the function of a firearm that you intend to carry. If it's a recreational gun that you intend to target shoot or participate in shooting matches with, then by all means do what you want with it to make it more enjoyable to shoot. However you really don't want to get in to a legal situation where you used a firearm in self defense that you have modified with lighter trigger pull or other customizations. Prosecutors can very likely hold those things against you. My rule of thumb with a carry weapon and ammunition choice is to stick to something along the same lines of what law enforcement uses. Stock configuration Glock, Springfield XD or XDm, or S&W M&P pistols are a fine choice. For ammunition, I like Speer Gold Dots.

 

tobyducote

Lifer
Jun 10, 2012
1,204
3
New Orleans
I have a Glock 23 (40 cal)...15 yards and under, it's a tack driver....my Sig 1911 (45) cal will shoot better than I can ever hope to shoot it...consistent 10 ring at 35 yards and under...the trigger has been polished, de-burred and barrel ported...it's a beautiful weapon that fits my hand like a glove...but I practice with it and my Glock twice weekly. If you don't plan on practicing regularly, don't own a gun...

 

cobguy

Lifer
Oct 18, 2013
3,742
18
Just to clarify ... Uncle Mike's is just another option and a cheap one at that.

It actually fits into my front pocket with loose jeans which is a nice alternative.

Once in place, it clips to the outside, is not loosey-goosey at all and is easy to draw.

My Bianchi Professional 100 (Leather) and Fobus Paddle (polymer) are also available for secure carry needs.

 

johnnyreb

Lifer
Aug 21, 2014
1,961
614
Well it just stands to reason that no cordura holster can be formed to a specific pistol and hold it as securely as a formed leather or kydex holster. It's one thing if the holster doesn't move around in your jeans pocket, but it's another when it doesn't hold the pistol firmly. As Trailboss said, good holsters & belts are expensive but you get exactly what you pay for.

 

petes03

Lifer
Jun 23, 2013
6,212
10,660
The Hills of Tennessee
I completely agree, leather or Kydex is the way to go!

My Safariland open-top OWB 1911 holster will still keep my gun in place even if I stand on my head!

I also have a Fobus Kydex open-top for my 1911 which will do the same, but it's rough on the gun.

Most of the rest of my holsters are thumb-break OWB's.

 

johnnyreb

Lifer
Aug 21, 2014
1,961
614
Agree on kydex being hard on the finish on the gun, Petes. I only go to a kydex holster during the hottest, sweatyest days of summer when you want to stay away from leather against your skin and gunmetal.

 

simnettpratt

Lifer
Nov 21, 2011
1,516
2
My brother-in-law's a sculptor and specializes in full size period figures from the 50s and 60s: John Wayne, Marilyn Monroe, James Dean etc. When I helped him move into his current house, we had to carry several dressed, headless figures and body parts into his shed. I said he needed to take a shovel and spend the next few days digging in the yard and his neighbors would never bother him ;)
I had an Uncle Mike's pocket holster for my dinky little Taurus PT-25, which worked fine for keeping the lint out of the pistol, and stayed in my pocket when I drew the Taurus, but I wouldn't consider it a 'real' defensive holster (or gun), either. There's a reason the Crossbreed Supertuck is by far the most popular holster out there.
That said, if all a guy can afford is an Uncle Mike's pocket holster with a .25 in it, he deserves to be robbed no less than the guy with a Sig in a Supertuck.

 

simnettpratt

Lifer
Nov 21, 2011
1,516
2
S&W has a promo for two free magazines right now on M&P (not Shield) pistols in 9mm, .40 and .45. Buy a new M&P full-size or compact between now and December 3 and they'll send you two free mags - CA residents will get reduced capacity 10-rnd mags (sorry). Here's the link to the rebate form:
S&W M&P free mags

 

johnnyreb

Lifer
Aug 21, 2014
1,961
614
"That said, if all a guy can afford is an Uncle Mike's pocket holster with a .25 in it, he deserves to be robbed no less than the guy with a Sig in a Supertuck."
True that, but he is either going to just get himself hurt or a companion hurt trying to defend himself with a .25 while attempting to draw it out of a cordura holster. Might as well put the .25 in his manbag.

 

simnettpratt

Lifer
Nov 21, 2011
1,516
2
For me, I'd prefer the cordura in the pocket. I can't tell you what you'd prefer. My manbag, er Computer Laptop Case with no laptop in it, would get lint in the pistol. Here's an example of a poor holster I think we'd all agree on though: My sister's rabbit holster.
She was very much against guns until she married my bro, who loves them and might even own one. The only one she liked to shoot was a little blowback Beretta Bobcat in .25 ACP. He convinced her to use that for her home rape defense pistol as an improvement over wetting herself.
She is a puppeteer, and kept it by the bed inside a rabbit puppet, so and I'm not making this up, the rapist in the bedroom would think she'd be reaching for the puppet for comfort, and would be surprised when the rabbit shot him.
When I found this out, I of course freaked out, and tried to explain the fallacy of using a single, unaimed .25 shot followed by a jammed and useless pistol, and her response was, 'Oh no, I use my badass bullets'. She had it loaded with some kind of XTP copy and figured her one miss would drop the rapist in his tracks.
Yes, this is the point at which I gave up on her. My bro even had my mom convinced for a while to keep a revolver by her bed. I'm happy and trying to be supportive and ask to see it. It was a 6" Dan Wesson that weighed more than my dog. She was in her 70s at the time. I check and it's a .22. I think, ok maybe that's all she can handle and checked her load. They were BLANKS! BLANKS! Her response was, 'Well, I wouldn't want to SHOOT anyone!'.
You are correct that I took the revolver and gave it back to my bro.
Told that story on another forum and the best response was it was a good idea, because the perp would surely die laughing.

 

dochudson

Lifer
May 11, 2012
1,635
12
boy has this thread spiraled out of control.. the OP was for home defense and range but really I suspect the home defense part was used to get a gun purchase pass the wife before the laws changed out there. I could be wrong (probably am) but I thought CCW was hard to come by in CA? what holster is best would depend on what he buys and if he is going to carry in his house/yard? if he's going to carry around home I would recommend going with open carry

 

zekest

Lifer
Apr 1, 2013
1,136
9
Holster selection depends on many things: Type of firearm, carry preference, and style of clothing (summer versus winter for example), just to name a few.
Most people end up with many different holsters.

 

petes03

Lifer
Jun 23, 2013
6,212
10,660
The Hills of Tennessee
Generally, my brand of choice when it comes to holsters, is Tagua Leather.

They use a lot of Galco style designs, they're good quality, and priced right.

I've got quite a few of them and have no complaints, other than a few of them were a little long in the break-in period.
That said, my favorite holster is my Safariland open-top 1911, leather, suede lined, paddle holster.

 

lochinvar

Lifer
Oct 22, 2013
1,687
1,640
For holsters I use IWB. I started out trying some of the Uncle Mike, Bianchi etc cheaper offerings. I found they shifted and often fell out of my pants. Now I only use Milt Sparks, Kramer or Black Hills Leather paired with a Beltman bullhide pistol belt (with additional poly stiffeners built in). My rig never shifts at all, and conceals great.

 

petes03

Lifer
Jun 23, 2013
6,212
10,660
The Hills of Tennessee
@lochinvar. I've looked (drooled over) at Milt Sparks holsters several times, just never have had the money to spring for one when the chance came along. They're definitely very nice.

 

lochinvar

Lifer
Oct 22, 2013
1,687
1,640
Sometimes you can run across a good deal on the cursed ebay, or Brownells keeps some in stock for more standard pistols (1911 Glock etc) at a discount. After a pistol worked its way up out of my pants (why I don't like the clip style holster retention) and fell out on a rocky trail cracking a grip, I decided $100 was a cheap price for stabrl carry, and not having to buy new grips, buff out scratches, etc.

 

lochinvar

Lifer
Oct 22, 2013
1,687
1,640
Mitch Rosen makes a shoulder rig that is out of this world. He goes a step beyond normal working leather, into heirloom quality.

 

okiescout

Lifer
Jan 27, 2013
1,530
7
Good,Zekest!

"Most people end up with many different holsters."
II thought it was just me.:O)
Last time I was at the range, they sold me a great pistol belt. It has two leather pieces, front and back with a Kydex strip sandwiched in between. No twist,no sag, awesome "dress look" belt. Cannot remember maker.I'll see if I can find out the manufacturer.

 
Status
Not open for further replies.