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Briar Lee

Lifer
Sep 4, 2021
4,960
14,334
Humansville Missouri
Here in Northern Illinois (an hour west of Chicago), I paid $5.05 a gallon on Tuesday. Do the gas prices curb your driving? Less trips, shorter trips? The gas prices hasn't changed our driving habits yet, but our trips out with the camper this summer will be closer to home.
Whatever it costs, about $4.20 a gallon here, I’m so grateful I can fill up my tank to the top and not have to buy five dollars worth at maybe 50 cents a gallon I don’t ever bitch, moan, whine or complain about the price of gasoline.

Tom T Hall wrote an appropriate song about the subject, as he did other important subjects in life.

BACK WHEN GAS WAS 30 CENTS A GALLON

 

crusader

Can't Leave
Aug 18, 2014
399
362
Nebraska
I filled up yesterday for $3.90 with 10c off from the discount card.

Wanted to go out of town this weekend for the holiday but an extra $200 it would cost kept me home.
 

FurCoat

Lifer
Sep 21, 2020
10,179
96,236
North Carolina
I pay €2,17 a liter at the moment, about €8,80 a gallon, which is about $9.20. So I find it funny I hear Americans complain about fuel prices ?. I drive 4 times a week to work, 64km round-trip, if I take it easy ill get 20 to 22 km a liter with the small towncar we have. We are thinking about leasing a smaller electric car, the difference gets smaller and smaller in costs for driving electric vs petrol. I don't mind, we can both charge the car at work, my wife works at the office when I work from home. 90% of the kms driven are to and from work.

Edit: my habits only changed in how I drive, not how much as I don't have a option to do so.
The difference is we in America have oil ....and refineries. We don't have to and shouldn't depend on foreign oil, as it was prior to 2020. We are complaining because our government is putting policies in place to purposely inflate energy costs. Before 2020 I was paying 2.20 a gallon. Within one year it was up to 3.99 well before the Ukranian conflict. The war in Ukraine bumped it up 35 or so cents.
 

tfdickson

Lifer
May 15, 2014
2,350
47,242
East End of Long Island
$5.50 per gallon was my last fill, $120 or so for 3/4 of a tank. That was the most I’ve ever paid but it won’t impact my driving habits in the slightest. In terms of bang for the buck pipe tobacco is the cheapest thing in the world but American gasoline has to be number two. Fuel to move nearly three tons of truck, people, and gear 16-18 miles costs $5, that’s a deal in my book.
 

tfdickson

Lifer
May 15, 2014
2,350
47,242
East End of Long Island
The difference is we in America have oil ....and refineries. We don't have to and shouldn't depend on foreign oil, as it was prior to 2020. We are complaining because our government is putting policies in place to purposely inflate energy costs. Before 2020 I was paying 2.20 a gallon. Within one year it was up to 3.99 well before the Ukranian conflict. The war in Ukraine bumped it up 35 or so cents.

My post above was strictly concerning whether or not higher prices will alter my driving choices. But you are exactly right, considering the resources we have the idea that we would need to import even a single barrel is just insane. I grew up in Alaska so I’m a petroleum kind of guy and have my biases but what country on earth wouldn‘t want to be energy independent If they had the resource?
 

Franco Pipenbeans

Part of the Furniture Now
Jan 7, 2021
648
1,698
Yorkshire, England
Not to sound like a damp fart or anything but you North Americans still have it quite good you know. It might not feel like it but hear me out and consider some of the following…

Yes, prices have gone up for many reasons; no, you guys can’t blame Brexit for all these increases whilst simultaneously taking the moral high ground and saying “I told you this would happen if we ever left the E.U”.

Over here (UK) we are paying £1.77 a litre which is $8.37 for a US gallon of diesel, £1.66 ($6.25) for a US gallon of unleaded. We are paying, in the region of $22.73 for a 50g/1.75oz tin of tobacco - on a side note: I was stood behind a bloke buying a pouch of Natural American Spirit (hand rolling baccy) the other day at the petrol station and it cost him £19 ($24) for a 30g (1.05oz) pouch of that. 50g is now nearly £30 ($37.89).

I get nearly £1000 ($1262.91) taken out of my pay packet, for one reason or another (but mainly tax in one form or another), each and every month.

we pay 20% value added tax (V.A.T) on everything we buy: shoes, clothes, cat food, Kit-Kats, bus journeys, bread, peanuts, water, washing up liquid. Jeez, if we even think about buying something then we get taxed 20% on that thought!

I reckon nearly 2/3rds of any money I make goes directly to whichever gang of Hooray Henry’s are presently in No10 - and the done thing for political parties, of any hue, is to shout, “tax the buggers some more!” It’s ridiculous.

I have taken a look at Bureau of Labour Statistics for the Mid-West (I thought that the middle of the country would be the fairest overview of the US), see the link below, and, literally, everything on this list has gone up over the last few months but it is still considerably cheaper than here.

Average Retail Food and Energy Prices, U.S. and Midwest Region : Mid–Atlantic Information Office : U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics - https://www.bls.gov/regions/mid-atlantic/data/averageretailfoodandenergyprices_usandmidwest_table.htm

I know that you Americans, in particular, like stock piling pretty much anything, from food and grain to ammunition, from tea to tobacco so, I guess, the question for you now is: “how likely is an impending nuclear Armageddon or should I convert the fallout bunker into a tank that can hold a lifetimes supply of petrol?” ?

The world has gone to poo and the Chinese Communist Party are just sitting back and waiting to see how it all plays out; probably in their favour.

The old Discworld curse “May you live in interesting times!” Comes to mind.

Anyway - happy pipes. ✌?
 

DanWil84

Lifer
Mar 8, 2021
1,691
12,663
40
The Netherlands (Europe)
The difference is we in America have oil ....and refineries. We don't have to and shouldn't depend on foreign oil, as it was prior to 2020. We are complaining because our government is putting policies in place to purposely inflate energy costs. Before 2020 I was paying 2.20 a gallon. Within one year it was up to 3.99 well before the Ukranian conflict. The war in Ukraine bumped it up 35 or so cents.
Oil we don't have, refineries a lot as we have the best accessible port of Europe. That fuel is so expensive is next to the "high" crude oil price (which isn't that high, has been higher but fuel at that moment wasn't more expensive ?) is it is so heavily taxed that at a "normal" fuel price of 1.50 a liter still 1 euro is tax.

If were talking the energy crisis in general: we live on one of the biggest reserves of natural gas in the world, but still think it's nessecary to import gas and export our own. It's cheaper to export your own gas and stack taxes than to give your own gas to your own population. People living in that area where the gas is pumped up are complaining about their houses having cracks in it because of earthquakes the drilling cause and they righteously do so. But politics says "no, we're not going to compensate you, we just stop the drilling" instead of saying "here is a 7 or 8 figure number in a fund to compensate the damage and we drill the 15 figure (yes, fiveteen) number that's still in the ground up".

Luckily I have the funds to not be dependant of gas for heating my home and I have solar panels, but I feel sorry for people that have to pay 800 euros a month just to have electricity and gas.
 
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Flatfish

Part of the Furniture Now
Jan 20, 2022
775
1,926
West Wales
I have done some sums.
Converted litres to US gallons. Pounds to dollars. I used £1.82 per litre as my starting point.

In the UK, diesel is about $8.68 per US gallon.
 

karam

Lifer
Feb 2, 2019
2,582
9,861
Basel, Switzerland
I pay €2,17 a liter at the moment, about €8,80 a gallon, which is about $9.20. So I find it funny I hear Americans complain about fuel prices ?. I drive 4 times a week to work, 64km round-trip, if I take it easy ill get 20 to 22 km a liter with the small towncar we have. We are thinking about leasing a smaller electric car, the difference gets smaller and smaller in costs for driving electric vs petrol. I don't mind, we can both charge the car at work, my wife works at the office when I work from home. 90% of the kms driven are to and from work.

Edit: my habits only changed in how I drive, not how much as I don't have a option to do so.
That’s my prices too in Switzerland. And shocking to see @paulfg’s prices in Greece, given Netherlands probably has 4x the salaries of Greece, and Switzerland has…better not say.
I drive to work in Basel, 44km round trip Mon-Thu, my wife does most of our shopping but that’s within a kilometre from home so that drive is negligible. My car tells me we do 5.5-5.7litres/100 km so that’s not bad in my opinion.

Unlike common misconception, Greece is an extremely expensive country considering the high taxes, low salaries, and poor level of many services provided.
 
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karam

Lifer
Feb 2, 2019
2,582
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Basel, Switzerland
Oil we don't have, refineries a lot as we have the best accessible port of Europe. That fuel is so expensive is next to the "high" crude oil price (which isn't that high, has been higher but fuel at that moment wasn't more expensive ?) is it is so heavily taxed that at a "normal" fuel price of 1.50 a liter still 1 euro is tax.

If were talking the energy crisis in general: we live on one of the biggest reserves of natural gas in the world, but still think it's nessecary to import gas and export our own. It's cheaper to export your own gas and stack taxes than to give your own gas to your own population. People living in that area where the gas is pumped up are complaining about their houses having cracks in it because of earthquakes the drilling cause and they righteously do so. But politics says "no, we're not going to compensate you, we just stop the drilling" instead of saying "here is a 7 or 8 figure number in a fund to compensate the damage and we drill the 15 figure (yes, fiveteen) number that's still in the ground up".

Luckily I have the funds to not be dependant of gas for heating my home and I have solar panels, but I feel sorry for people that have to pay 800 euros a month just to have electricity and gas.
Countries need to do it like Norway, they developed the expertise from tbe ground up and now reap the benefits. 50 years ago they were a poor, but self-sufficient country (potatoes and fish are easy!), now they are so rich they don’t know what to do with all the state money. (Not talking about NL, you have the expertise with oil for decades, Royal Dutch Shell etc).
You say people pay 800euros for gas and electricity, don’t know about NL, but Greece did yet another scandalous thing: they “adjusted” the costs of gas and electricity and then charged the full new price on energy consumed under old prices. That’s like the supermarket sending you a bill for food you ate two months ago. Switzerland is fair, any adjustment is on energy consumed AFTER the adjustment… Or another example: I got my car in Greece in December 2019 and had to pay road tax for the whole of 2019. I got Swiss number plates on the 30th of December last year, my road tax for 2021 was for two days!
 
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