Farewell Sutliff Tobacco Company - Monday 3/4/25

[troutface]

But apparently Sutliff had no idea how to market the line, so they started sending out samples to pipe clubs. Brilliant idea, except they didn’t send one or two tins, they sent dozens. Flooded the market with free tobacco.

They would send boxes of the stuff every month to the cigar bar where our pipe club met. Nobody wanted it. The restaurant was getting pissed because they didn't know what to do with all of it.

 

[sablebrush52]

Good thread idea. "Name A Blend That Has IMPROVED After The Manufacturer Changed It"

Well, a lot of smokers prefer the A & C Petersen version of Escudo over the Copes. There's that one.

 

[Chasing Embers]

There were a few Sutliff advocates, myself included, who appreciated what they really did, as opposed to the largely ignorant detractors, who thought Sutliff only made over the top goopers.

As am I. A large portion of my cellar is devoted to them.

 

[sablebrush52]

I’m holding onto hope for Bruno Flake….

St Bruno is on the list of blends to stay in production. I can only hope that STD doesn't further degrade the blend from what MacBaren did to it.

 

[lazar]

Regardless of just how high an opinion we might have of ourselves, and no matter how much influence we think PM has over the pipe tobacco industry, the Sutliff Naysayers had nothing to do with it's closure. Zero. If STG could buy C&D, they'd close them, too.

They're openly ridiculed and reviled too, though.

 

[sablebrush52]

Openly reviled and ridiculed? Links please.

You would have to go back quite a ways. Once the extent of Sutliff's activities began to get revealed, like making blends for Peretti and other premium labels, including the fact that they supplied their "inferior" tobacco to McClelland, the detractors largely shut the fuck up.

 

[sablebrush52]

They're openly ridiculed and reviled too, though.

C&D? They used to be reviled here. They've upped their game in recent years and found a niche that works well for them. Plus, they're almost your only date for the prom.
While I'm not a big fan, they make a few blends that I really like and have cellared poundage.

 

[Ahi Ka]

Good thread idea. "Name A Blend That Has IMPROVED After The Manufacturer Changed It"

Please start this thread

 

[woodsroad]

They're openly ridiculed and reviled too, though.

Who is “they”?

 

[Brad H]

St Bruno is on the list of blends to stay in production. I can only hope that STD doesn't further degrade the blend from what MacBaren did to it.

yeah that was my hope =[]
but just incase.... i think i have 37 tins.

 

[huntertrw]

Wortzel said in his interview that STD hadn’t decided what to do with the machinery.

STD? I see what you did there Jesse!

 

[Elric]

Sutliff Terminating Disease?

 

[Chasing Embers]

They're openly ridiculed and reviled too, though.

I've only seen that on occasion. Excluding that their parent company is a sponsor here, many of us on here were friends with Craig Tarler and his wife and for many years ordered directly from them. They'd even custom make blends and/or press any of their blends into one pound bricks upon request.

 

[dd57chevy]

There are 4 flake press machines that could easily be sold to blenders like WCC or LJ Peretti.

Who is WCC ? I need to know...........

 

[sablebrush52]

yeah that was my hope =[]
but just incase.... i think i have 37 tins.

Better enjoy them while still fresh. All of the 2016 tins and pouches of St Bruno that I bought were pretty dead when I tried them last year. Whatever flavorings MacBaren used had no staying power. The Ogden's version flavorings were solid for decades.

 

[sablebrush52]

Who is WCC ? I need to know...........

Watch City Cigars

 

[Ahi Ka]

Better enjoy them while still fresh. All of the 2016 tins and pouches of St Bruno that I bought were pretty dead when I tied them last year. Whatever flavorings MacBaren used had no staying power. The Ogden's version flavorings were solid for decades.

Ok. I know what I’ll be smoking for the rest of this year then

 

[sablebrush52]

Ok. I know what I’ll be smoking for the rest of this year then

Yeah, I was kind of shocked. And MacBaren's most recent production is pretty bland.

 

[Ahi Ka]

Yeah, I was kind of shocked. And MacBaren's most recent production is pretty bland.

I have one of the old sealed plastic trays of the flake left. Will be interesting to see the topping difference between 20 years and 5 years

 

[sablebrush52]

I have one of the old sealed plastic trays of the flake left. Will be interesting to see the topping difference between 20 years and 5 years

20 years will be the Ogden's product. The base tobaccos in the Ogdens version always struck me as richer and deeper in flavor than MacBaren's.

Denmark is the country where English brands go to die.