Expensive Pipes--To Each His Own

[dctune]

@dctune Unbelievable, about what, surprised to see mention again?


I just saw this new Former pipe, mentioned in one of the latest SPC newsletters. While I think Former is one of the Danish greats, $3500 hmm ?

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Yes. Unbelievable that I’ve never seen the article before, and then after posting about it yesterday, I see it today linked here from earlier in the week.

My wife and I just laugh bc this stuff happens to me all the time. Like, I’ll be driving and talking randomly about Ken Griffey’s Upper Deck rookie card. Then somebody will cut me off in traffic with a Seattle Mariners bumper sticker.

That’s just one example. It literally happens all the time, and in various, random ways. Lol.

 

[Simmerdown☕️]

What’s up with this “I’ll never touch a cob again” stuff??‍️

I want it known for the record, that Capt. Has a very valid/personal reason for no longer being into cobs.

Reminds me of myself 25 years ago when I had a closet full of expensive cowboy boots. WTF? I'm no cowboy. It all began with the first pair. The soft leather uppers, the leather soles (because they're cooler), getting a perfect fit, the smell of the leather and a great salesman who convinced me that I needed a rotation because wearing them too often wouldn't be good for their longevity. Sound familiar? I had a great time with it.

Eventually the local Goodwill got an anonymous donation of some fine footwear and now I get around in the same old beater loafers day after day.

yeah & I bet those loafers are the most comfortable pair of shoes you own…I know this cause I have pair as well. ?️

 

[Simmerdown☕️]

Art is how craft is used. All art involves an element of pure craft, or else there can be no art.

Easy Cos…you just blew my mind with that one man. ???️

 

[Simmerdown☕️]

@dctune Unbelievable, about what, surprised to see mention again?


I just saw this new Former pipe, mentioned in one of the latest SPC newsletters. While I think Former is one of the Danish greats, $3500 hmm ?

Former Smooth Billiard with Bamboo | Buy Former Tobacco Pipes at Smokingpipes.com

Smokingpipes.com is your one stop shop for Former Smooth Billiard with Bamboo Tobacco Pipes and all your tobacco smoking needs. From new tobacco pipes and estate tobacco pipes to tin pipe tobacco and bulk pipe tobacco, we have everything you need

www.smokingpipes.com

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And I bet ya this very pipe is gone in a week or two for the SPC library. Someone out there will buy it cause of its perceived value. Gorgeous pipe though & I'm not A bamboo fella. ?️

 

[JKoD]

You'll never convince me that animation is a craft. There is art and there is craft. Craft creates something with functional purpose. A crafted item can have artistic attributes (a motorcycle, a desk, a pipe) but a work of art has no functional use. And most certainly that applies in this pipe making case. Pipe making is far closer to engineering than it is to doodling or painting.

Edit: I don't mean to demean or diminish the importance of art. I have many, many artistic pieces around my house, commissioned by my favorite artists. My mother is an artist. It is something I don't have a particular knack for, and I admire. Just detailing differences here.

So, in this (clearly bias) "outsider's opinion":
- person detailing points about how the material used in crafting is the utmost importance. And pointing out how the person saying that all briar is the same, must not know about crafting. = attacking.
- person calling names, not addressing any points made in the conversation, dismissing common knowledge as myths, = defending.

The word for this is delusion.

It isn’t about convincing you. You made it perfectly clear that you are always right. However, you couldn’t be more wrong. You seem to look at functional as a “moving part” or a “support beam” for a “structure.” If you can’t explain it, it’s not functional. Or, I suppose we have to consider the definition of functional. Is your family functional? If so, can you draw a picture of that? And, if it didn’t serve a function, why would you put art in your house?

Also, what made my post bias? That I don’t agree with you? You deal with a lot of bias don’t you…and likely often?

So, to the topic at hand on briar. There is too much emphasis placed on factors the great majority of pipe smokers truly don’t care about. Can grain make a difference? What about density? What about soil the tree, or shrub, or woody plant it grew in? The climate it experienced growing? Water quality? Sure - i suppose all of those things can make a difference with regard to a biological thing. The question is will the majority of pipe smokers be able to tell a difference? No. Fat chance. So, knowing this could be the difference in using to market to consumers (Hint#5 Marketing). Yeah, those damn marketing guys who use psychology which is also likely too abstract for you and has likely had zero functionality in your mind.

Look forward to the next point you prove.

 

[PipeIT]

And I bet ya this very pipe is gone in a week or two for the SPC library. Someone out there will buy it cause of its perceived value. Gorgeous pipe though & I'm not A bamboo fella. ?️

I did want to buy one of his 60th Anniversary pipes.

But I’ve always been of the mindset in life, that, even though someone has the money, better to be frugal, and help others in life with your wealth, and not squander it foolishly on yourself.

There’s to much suffering in the world, I’m not comfortable spending this kind of money on myself.

 

[cosmicfolklore]

here’s to much suffering in the world, I’m not comfortable spending this kind of money on myself.

I don't see how NOT spending it helps anyone out either. Lately, my accountant has been riding my ass about spending more money.

 

[Searock Fan]

THIS THREAD....

 

[Simmerdown☕️]

I did want to buy one of his 60th Anniversary pipes.

But I’ve always been of the mindset in life, that, even though someone has the money, better to be frugal, and help others in life with your wealth, and not squander it foolishly on yourself.

There’s to much suffering in the world, I’m not comfortable spending this kind of money on myself.

If you can afford to spend it and want it…buy it. ?️

 

[Simmerdown☕️]

And 3,2,1…?️

 

[cosmicfolklore]

If you can afford to spend it and want it…buy it. ?️

Exactly, and then the pipemaker or retailer, pays his employees, who then buy food, and the grocer then pays a prostitute, who then pays her college tuition to get her degree in English Lit, who then tells us all to give our money to the poor.... kumbaya, and the circle of life sorta thing, right?

 

[smokeymo]

It isn’t about convincing you. You made it perfectly clear that you are always right. However, you couldn’t be more wrong. You seem to look at functional as a “moving part” or a “support beam” for a “structure.” If you can’t explain it, it’s not functional. Or, I suppose we have to consider the definition of functional. Is your family functional? If so, can you draw a picture of that? And, if it didn’t serve a function, why would you put art in your house?

Also, what made my post bias? That I don’t agree with you? You deal with a lot of bias don’t you…and likely often?

So, to the topic at hand on briar. There is too much emphasis placed on factors the great majority of pipe smokers truly don’t care about. Can grain make a difference? What about density? What about soil the tree, or shrub, or woody plant it grew in? The climate it experienced growing? Water quality? Sure - i suppose all of those things can make a difference with regard to a biological thing. The question is will the majority of pipe smokers be able to tell a difference? No. Fat chance. So, knowing this could be the difference in using to market to consumers (Hint#5 Marketing). Yeah, those damn marketing guys who use psychology which is also likely too abstract for you and has likely had zero functionality in your mind.

Look forward to the next point you prove.

Why put art in my house? Because it looks nice. Because it increases in value. The art has no functionality in and of itself. It does not do anything. It sits there and has no use other than to sit there. The fact that you are now arguing obscure definitions of words is kind of sad.

There are plenty of pipe smokers that can tell the difference between good briar and average briar. To claim this as untrue is a discredit to those who have been doing this for decades.

Your reading comprehension is, again, proving very poor. You are making an inference that something (marketing psychology) is beyond my comprehension. By your definition you are attacking me. Right? Because I inferred that craftsmanship was beyond someone else and that was deemed attacking...

Marketing obviously has functionality and I brought that up in my first post. Pipe makers who tell you the briar isn't all that important is... wait for it.... marketing. because they are selling something. You didn't address how, in your own post, it says that there are different levels of briar. If all briar is the same (or similar enough that the "majority of pipe smokers" can't tell the difference), why would that be the case? I'm sure the top artisans in the world use the same exact briar and the same exact curing processes as Peterson and Savinelli. Right??

 

[Simmerdown☕️]

Architects are cool, Engineers rock, and Marketing Executives are the ?. Damn, As Shrek once said…Can’t we settle all this over a pint? I’m off today also so I can afford to post nonsense all day. I’ll be here all day…don’t forget to tip the waiter. ?️

 

[smokeymo]

It isn’t about convincing you. You made it perfectly clear that you are always right. However, you couldn’t be more wrong. You seem to look at functional as a “moving part” or a “support beam” for a “structure.” If you can’t explain it, it’s not functional. Or, I suppose we have to consider the definition of functional. Is your family functional? If so, can you draw a picture of that? And, if it didn’t serve a function, why would you put art in your house?

Also, what made my post bias? That I don’t agree with you? You deal with a lot of bias don’t you…and likely often?

So, to the topic at hand on briar. There is too much emphasis placed on factors the great majority of pipe smokers truly don’t care about. Can grain make a difference? What about density? What about soil the tree, or shrub, or woody plant it grew in? The climate it experienced growing? Water quality? Sure - i suppose all of those things can make a difference with regard to a biological thing. The question is will the majority of pipe smokers be able to tell a difference? No. Fat chance. So, knowing this could be the difference in using to market to consumers (Hint#5 Marketing). Yeah, those damn marketing guys who use psychology which is also likely too abstract for you and has likely had zero functionality in your mind.

Look forward to the next point you prove.

I wonder how much your buddy would say a flawless piece of briar is worth.

Also, a good analogy to what I'm talking about is wine. Sure, the winemaker makes a massive difference in the quality of the wine. But the essence of the wine is the grape. Where and how it is grown.

 

[Chasing Embers]

Can’t we settle all this over a pint ?

I don't think a gallon could settle this trainwreck.??

 

[Simmerdown☕️]

I don't think a gallon could settle this train wreck.

Yeah, the Executives of this show haven’t gotten wind of its au de toilet yet…I find it funny when the shut down comment comes. ?️

 

[cosmicfolklore]

I don't think a gallon could settle this trainwreck.??

Hey man, want some of dat $500 briar, man?

 

[smokeymo]

Yeah, the Executives of this show haven’t gotten wind of its au de toilet yet…I find it funny when the shut down comment comes. ?️

Right? God forbid anyone have a conversation and disagree with eachother.

 

[jpberg]

Hey man, want some of dat $500 briar, man?

I hear the $500 briar isn’t that great.

 

[Simmerdown☕️]

Right? God forbid anyone have a conversation and disagree with eachother.

I’ve just never been for too much open forum disagreement. I find myself often looking like an asshole when trying to prove a point. Also, because I rarely care that much to get in arguments with folks as it serves little purpose other than to make myself feel validated & that’s VANITY son. ? ?️