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Lifer
Aug 4, 2019
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A big shout out to dreamingpipes.com! Peter and his team went above and beyond to fulfill my needs. After a failed order on their site, I asked Pete if he could get me 10 Wessex Gold Brick and 10 Wessex Campaign. He said that he would do his best, but made no promises. Well, after six months had passed, I had forgotten all about my request and to my surprise, I received an email stating that my order was ready for payment! Here’s the mail call:
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10 Wessex Gold Brick on top and 10 Campaign below. That, my friends is service! Give Dreaming Pipes a try, if you haven’t already.
 

greeneyes

Lifer
Jun 5, 2018
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I was scanning the Dreaming Pipes website today. It seems to me that much of their business goes to China. It looks like they've created a "system" for dealing with sales of Esoterica pipe tobaccos----the DP Rewards system.

A buyer gets one DP Rewards point per US Dollar spent. For access to purchase a tin of Esoterica you need 1,899 DP Rewards points; an 8oz bags, you will need 5,499 DP Rewards.

A $5499 price of admission to purchase a single bag of Esoterica per year. Yowza.
 

didimauw

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Jul 28, 2013
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I was scanning the Dreaming Pipes website today. It seems to me that much of their business goes to China. It looks like they've created a "system" for dealing with sales of Esoterica pipe tobaccos----the DP Rewards system.

A buyer gets one DP Rewards point per US Dollar spent. For access to purchase a tin of Esoterica you need 1,899 DP Rewards points; an 8oz bags, you will need 5,499 DP Rewards.

A $5499 price of admission to purchase a single bag of Esoterica per year. Yowza.
Carter.....

Hall.....
 
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simong

Lifer
Oct 13, 2015
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16,591
UK
I was scanning the Dreaming Pipes website today. It seems to me that much of their business goes to China. It looks like they've created a "system" for dealing with sales of Esoterica pipe tobaccos----the DP Rewards system.

A buyer gets one DP Rewards point per US Dollar spent. For access to purchase a tin of Esoterica you need 1,899 DP Rewards points; an 8oz bags, you will need 5,499 DP Rewards.

A $5499 price of admission to purchase a single bag of Esoterica per year. Yowza.
Let them have it, I say. One of the online chains here in the UK has ‘bumped’ the price of Germains up 30% or more, knowing full well the Chinese will buy it all up in minutes.

Saddest part about the ‘frenzy’ for Germains/Esoterica is (I think) the bad reflection on Germains themselves. They’re not doing anything different than they’ve ever done before, small company & small output. They’re not the one’s profiteering from all the hoopla over their blends.
I’m only surprised the Chinese haven’t already come up with a ‘copycat’ blender of their own by now. It’s only a matter of time, I’m sure.
 

greeneyes

Lifer
Jun 5, 2018
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I’m only surprised the Chinese haven’t already come up with a ‘copycat’ blender of their own by now. It’s only a matter of time, I’m sure.
It's all cachet isn't it. They could sell the name to Sutliff and the Chinese would still buy it while it remains a status symbol. China can stick to their gourmet teas and leave the tobacco blending to the experts I say ;) .
 
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simong

Lifer
Oct 13, 2015
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UK
It's all cachet isn't it. They could sell the name to Sutliff and the Chinese would still buy it while it remains a status symbol. China can stick to their gourmet teas and leave the tobacco blending to the experts I say ;) .
Ojala! We can but hope. Lol
 
Aug 11, 2022
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Cedar Rapids, IA
I was scanning the Dreaming Pipes website today. It seems to me that much of their business goes to China. It looks like they've created a "system" for dealing with sales of Esoterica pipe tobaccos----the DP Rewards system.

A buyer gets one DP Rewards point per US Dollar spent. For access to purchase a tin of Esoterica you need 1,899 DP Rewards points; an 8oz bags, you will need 5,499 DP Rewards.

A $5499 price of admission to purchase a single bag of Esoterica per year. Yowza.

It's 2023, you gotta create a proprietary crypto coin for that sort of thing if you want people to be interested!
 

PipeIT

Lifer
Nov 14, 2020
5,234
30,848
Hawaii
So this place is still good to buy from? 🧐

 

sablebrush52

The Bard Of Barlings
Jun 15, 2013
20,989
50,260
Southern Oregon
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I was scanning the Dreaming Pipes website today. It seems to me that much of their business goes to China. It looks like they've created a "system" for dealing with sales of Esoterica pipe tobaccos----the DP Rewards system.

A buyer gets one DP Rewards point per US Dollar spent. For access to purchase a tin of Esoterica you need 1,899 DP Rewards points; an 8oz bags, you will need 5,499 DP Rewards.

A $5499 price of admission to purchase a single bag of Esoterica per year. Yowza.
I think I'd stick with the $35 to $40+ per 8oz bag that I paid. And since I have about 30 lbs of various Esoterica blends, all bought at regular retail, I don't see any need to buy more of it, especially since the tobaccos have gone downhill in recent years.
 

suamrai61

Lurker
Jun 25, 2023
17
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China
So this place is still good to buy from? 🧐

They do indeed have greater recognition in China, but I consider them to be a reliable U.S. seller that offers excellent customer and after-sales service. Out of support for them, I always prioritize placing orders with them. They appear to be based in New York, and you can find their name listed among the New York distributors on the Laudisi website. (Named Keystone Pipe Trading Company)

Out of foolish selfishness, I hope this post doesn’t attract too much attention. Since their selling speed is relatively slower than other well-known sites, I originally expected that, even in the future when some Mac Baren products are officially discontinued, I could still stock up on them at my own pace through them lol.
 

greeneyes

Lifer
Jun 5, 2018
2,273
12,633
So this place is still good to buy from? 🧐

I've never purchased from them but personally I wouldn't be inclined to risk it unless they had something that I really, really wanted and was prepared to wait for, and that might ultimately turn out to not be in stock. On balance, we have more options for obtaining many of these things than, say, international buyers. I'm not saying they're sketchy or anything mind you.
 

PipeIT

Lifer
Nov 14, 2020
5,234
30,848
Hawaii
I started to notice some things…

On the Home page the banner at the top. Flat $3.99 Shipping on US Orders less than $95.

Really only $3.99… 🤨

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Then in the Shipping section, it says USPS Priority Mail and UPS Ground service are our preferred shipping partners. Now the shipping cost instead varies from $3.99 to real time calculated rates. Ok so much for that Flat $3.99 banner…

USPS Priority Flat Rate is more than $3.99 and if it can’t go Flat Rate, it can easily cost more. UPS Ground rates on something just under $95, it could also easily cost more than $3.99.

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Next many products have no information displayed.

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Next, I saw some pipe tobacco listed in stock, then I go to add it to the cart, and it says it’s out of stock.

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Getting back to the so called calculated real time shipping rates. Does anyone see the word Shipping in this check out order? When I was ready to place the order, there was no calculated rate. As I’m sure many here have placed online orders, you do see it calculate shipping after putting in an address. After I put in an address, a spinning circle appeared on the middle of the website, possibly suggesting this happening, but then nothing afterwards.

Also no TAX was charged. This is a serious offense not collecting taxes.

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Having a site online with this many discrepancies is not acceptable and unprofessional. This is also how scamming sites look, with various things out of place, that some might not notice.

Bottom Line: These are two manyRed Flags! 🚩 🚩 🚩

I’d stay away from this site for now! If they are legit, the site seriously needs correcting!

Big thumbs down! 👎 👎👎
 
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suamrai61

Lurker
Jun 25, 2023
17
33
China
I started to notice some things…

On the Home page the banner at the top. Flat $3.99 Shipping on US Orders less than $95.

Really only $3.99… 🤨

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Then in the Shipping section, it says USPS Priority Mail and UPS Ground service are our preferred shipping partners. Now the shipping cost instead varies from $3.99 to real time calculated rates. Ok so much for that Flat $3.99 banner…

USPS Priority Flat Rate is more than $3.99 and if it can’t go Flat Rate, it can easily cost more. UPS Ground rates on something just under $95, it could also easily cost more than $3.99.

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Next many products have no information displayed.

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Next, I saw some pipe tobacco listed in stock, then I go to add it to the cart, and it says it’s out of stock.

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Getting back to the so called calculated real time shipping rates. Does anyone see the word Shipping in this check out order? When I was ready to place the order, there was no calculated rate. As I’m sure many here have placed online orders, you do see it calculate shipping after putting in an address. After I put in an address, a spinning circle appeared on the middle of the website, possibly suggesting this happening, but then nothing afterwards.

Also no TAX was charged. This is a serious offense not collecting taxes.

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Having a site online with this many discrepancies is not acceptable and unprofessional. This is also how scamming sites look, with various things out of place, that some might not notice.

Bottom Line: These are two manyRed Flags! 🚩 🚩 🚩

I’d stay away from this site for now! If they are legit, the site seriously needs correcting!

Big thumbs down! 👎 👎👎
You make a valid point. I must clarify that my previous reply was indeed an incomplete evaluation from the perspective of a Chinese consumer. They fulfilled my orders as agreed and responded quickly to my after-sales needs, that’s all. Any U.S. members should not take my evaluation as a reference and should stay vigilant, especially in matters involving taxes. I’ll send them an email to see if they are willing to provide an explanation.