Danish Pipe Shop Muzzled

[cerfer]

To suggest that a company should not comply with laws and regulations rings hollow when you have no stake in the outcome or understanding of the possible consequences of non-compliance. .

I did not suggest that they not comply. In fact, if anything, I said the exact opposite.

 

[frozenchurchwarden]

"Everywhere is enlightened if your views happen to mirror those of the majority "Minority" in control."
It's pretty consistent in any election statistics I've seen that only around half the population is interested in directing government.

That being said, I'm sure the same is true in terms of media control. You have small groups of people bent on controlling larger groups and going to great lengths to interfere in the lives of others, on pretty much all sides of all spectrums this ends up being a negative thing.

 

[woodsroad]

Cerfer, my apologies for misunderstanding your post.

 

[olkofri]

The real culprit is not gov't's, which are only enactors being directed. This is the real train wrecker: WHO Framework Convention on Tobacco Control.
It's an organism full of unelected blackguards, accountable to no one, deciding on the tune governments must pipe and make the people dance to. It's not consistent yet accross the world board because some governments are facing challenges or delays in enacting it. But if you study the document and then study the patterns of things happening with tobacco regulation you'll see it's all there.
I just got a response from one of those MPs we, the population in a 'democracy', are s'posed to turn to for help against tyranical legislation:
"Thank you for writing to [MP] regarding cigars and pipe tobacco products and the Tobacco Products Regulations (Plain and Standardized Appearance).

The evidence of the long-term health risks associated with tobacco use is clear. Exposure to tobacco increases a person's risk of developing cancer or other life-threatening diseases. For this reason, we are proposing that the plain and standardized packaging measures apply to all tobacco products, including premium cigars and specialty tobacco. The World Health Organization has also adopted guidelines for the implementation of plain and standardized packaging which recommend that all tobacco products be covered by these measures." (Emphasis mine.)
Cat's long been out of the bag. The bosun's cat. What's the name of the bosun's cat?

 

[Chasing Embers]

What's the name of the bosun's cat?

Scourge

 

[wyfbane]

Wonder if there is a work around? Maybe having a shell corp outside the EU that does the advertising? Something.

 

[saltedplug]

"The FCTC (Framework Convention oin Tobacco Contro), one of the most quickly ratified treaties in United Nations history,[5] is a supranational agreement that seeks "to protect present and future generations from the devastating health, social, environmental and economic consequences of tobacco consumption and exposure to tobacco smoke" by enacting a set of universal standards stating the dangers of tobacco and limiting its use in all forms worldwide.[1][6] To this end, the treaty's provisions include rules that govern the production, sale, distribution, advertisement, and taxation of tobacco. FCTC standards are, however, minimum requirements, and signatories are encouraged to be even more stringent in regulating tobacco than the treaty requires them to be.[6]"

I read this a few years ago and could see tobacco's doom by the interlocking strategies coordinated on a worldwide basis.

 

[brian64]

interlocking strategies coordinated on a worldwide basis

"It's a big idea...a new world order!" -- GHWB

 

[woodsroad]

I see that we have finally connected the dots.

Congratulations, gentlemen.

 

[brian64]

The sight of that scourge helped a lot.

 

[jpmcwjr]

I prefer this cat. It takes up less room in the luggage.

 

[brian64]

It takes up less room in the luggage.

Yes, but that one doesn't look nearly as motivating.
Remember, the FCTC specifically encouraged the use something more "stringent":
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BdkgV3MFkr0

 

[pappymac]

On the one hand all these "governmental" organizations are against anything the perceive as being bad for your health. While the other hand are the "governmental" organizations decrying the over-population of the world and supporting assisted suicide and abortions.
All of these organizations need is to just leave us alone.

 

[woodsroad]

Let’s try not to touch the third rail here, and stay on-topic.

We all know what it takes to have a thread closed.

 

[warren]

It appears to be time to get ... in before the lock!

 

[tbradsim1]

They had no qualms in sending my ass to S Asia to get shot up, now tobbacos gonna kill me, never had a pack of cigs , cigars, or pipes shoot at me. :rofl:

 

[mitch11]

well its been a slice. im leaving this forum. Maybe there’s one out there that doesnt’t rehash the same moral/political debates americans (mostly) love to dwell over 24/7? Seems hard to find.
Ill stick to my pipe and books from now on as an escape.

 

[ashdigger]

I agree with Brad.
Mitch, if you're so upset, why announce yiur departure? Stick around and find other threads that interest you.

 

[warren]

mitch: We have our share of one issue members. If they bother you, moving on is probably a wise idea. Books, if you choose carefully so as not to inflame your sensibilities, are a safe alternative.

 

[hoosierpipeguy]

They had no qualms in sending my ass to S Asia to get shot up, now tobbacos gonna kill me, never had a pack of cigs , cigars, or pipes shoot at me

Amen and thanks for your service.