County in NY Seeks Smoking Ban in Private Homes
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What's not to like? Sunny weather, beach volleyball, and 'huanna restaurants. As for the humidity, well, I can think of one forum member who'd help you keep your tobacco at negative RH values!
Here in NZ a few months ago they enacted a new law to say it is illegal to smoke in a car that has minors in it. Personally that makes sense to me. However then the progressives jumped on that and said we should ban smoking at home. But while that’s going on the country also wants to make buying and smoking marijuana legal. The whole thing is laughable.
if you live in an apartment building then maybe smoking at home is no longer kosher but in most of NZ we live in our own homes on our own land. Seems a bit heavy handed.
if you live in an apartment building then maybe smoking at home is no longer kosher but in most of NZ we live in our own homes on our own land. Seems a bit heavy handed.
Here in Ohio I don't know of any apartment complexes that allow smoking.
A situation just occurred at a friend's complex where the smokers (rightfully) banded together to pressure the owner into some sort of roof over their smoking area and a picnic table or two.
Like others, I don't have a problem with the OWNERS of an apartment building banning smoking (and enforcing the ban).
What I have a problem with is a government mandate that bans tobacco smoking. 1. If they are going to ban tobacco smoking, then ban marijuana smoking also. 2. The 18th Amendment and the Volstead Act were proven to have been more damaging to this country and were both repealed in 1933. I find it interesting that one of the main arguments for the 18th Amendment was that it was necessary for health reasons - the same claim the anti-smoking lobby is now using. All Prohibition did was give rise to organize crime and cause more deaths by illegal alcohol.
What I have a problem with is a government mandate that bans tobacco smoking. 1. If they are going to ban tobacco smoking, then ban marijuana smoking also. 2. The 18th Amendment and the Volstead Act were proven to have been more damaging to this country and were both repealed in 1933. I find it interesting that one of the main arguments for the 18th Amendment was that it was necessary for health reasons - the same claim the anti-smoking lobby is now using. All Prohibition did was give rise to organize crime and cause more deaths by illegal alcohol.
Legislator Sam Gonzalez, the sponsor of the bill, told a local CBS affiliate that he did not think the bill was excessive.
“It’s not going too far. We’re heading in that direction anyway. We can’t smoke in restaurants. We can’t smoke in buildings,” he said. “We can’t smoke inside the theaters. There are parks, there are beaches that you can’t smoke in. We are headed there.”
I didn't realize you could smoke in a beach...
“It’s not going too far. We’re heading in that direction anyway. We can’t smoke in restaurants. We can’t smoke in buildings,” he said. “We can’t smoke inside the theaters. There are parks, there are beaches that you can’t smoke in. We are headed there.”
I didn't realize you could smoke in a beach...
Finland gov seeks to make the whole country as tobacco-free zone till the end of 2030
That's been a goal of the W.H.O. for several years now. A few countries including those in th UK were reviewing the possibility.
Pledge to end smoking in England by 2030 - BBC News
The ambition is part of a range of measures to tackle the causes of preventable ill health.
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I always wonder with laws like this how they're enforced. Someone would have to complain. If everyone living in a house smoked I don't see any of them complaining. I guess it seems the aim is if you're bothering someone with your smoke it gives them leeway to do something about it. Like how most apartments I've been in have a rule in the lease about not being able to watch t.v. or listen to music after a certain hour. The idea is if my neighbor is blasting music or something they can't say it wasn't loud, because they just not supposed to. So outside of apartment buildings or shared living spaces it seems almost impossible to get in trouble with this law.
if you got a shovel and advanced sand castle making skills you certain can.
quote from the article to answer one big question people have. "Legislator Sam Gonzalez is sponsoring the bill banning all smoking in apartments, condos, and multi-family homes." So you can give your own children a head start on COPD.
Plenty of snitches to go around. Now, with the plandemic, snitching has become the national sport. Children will tell on their parents, don't doubt that for a second. As for a house full of smokers, well, the neighbours will pitch in to 'save lives' and call the cops on them for smoking and not wearing a mask.
We have smokers in the building. We just have to go outside, more than 10 metres from the doors. There's even a bucket with sand by the parkade's wall for smokers to ditch their (cigs) butts.
No way there's gonna be any pressure here to build them anything to make their experience more comfy. Then everyone and his brother is gonna demand the building cater to their particular hobbies. Just not happening.
Something in the write-up made it sound like the line was drawn at multiple attached dwellings -- town houses, condos, apartments -- but maybe not unattached. It seems like that would be a case hard to make in the Supreme Court. This makes me think I did my wife a great favor rescuing her and her cat from Suffolk County, though our city in N.C. lacks some of the cosmopolitan flair of the NY City area. It is further difficult to see how this could be upheld if other equally noxious air pollutants exist in separate or shared housing. Plenty of people are afflicted and die of exposure to various kinds of air pollution that have nothing to do with smoking. Are those pollutants also now all in question? No? Why not? Incidentally, Suffolk County is part of Long Island with cross ventilation from the Atlantic Ocean and the Long Island Sound, which tends to dilute any kind of pollution from smoking or otherwise.
A very thought provoking article. When I lived in NYC I had a massive roof deck that was my garden, dinning area and smoking lounge. In fact Woods Road used to drop by and stay quite often years ago. When you ban something and then say you cannot do it even within your own four walls after paying your taxes and owning said four walls you are on a very dangerous path. Politico's don't seem to realize that if you piss off Joe Q Lunch box enough he will more than likely turn on said politico. Sadly the word compromise doesn't seem to exist anymore.
I want to write something really vile but I will get in trouble. I will say that this world I once knew is shitting the bed in the worst of ways. The fall of the American empire is upon us. I really worry for my kids.
Well, as we transition from democracy into neo-caesarism Politico doesn't really care if Joe Q likes his policies: they'll be enforced anyway, because Politico is appointed, propped up, and bankrolled by an oligarchic elite. Votes can be bought, or even made up. Why worry about which party the silent majority votes for when you can cheat? Why worry about the myriad Joe Q's when you can sic 'peaceful demonstrators' on them?
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