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BorealPiper

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Back on topic: I really liked Winchester but I'm curious if you guys dry it out at all? Out of the jar it's pretty moist for me but then again I like to dry to a light crisp.
Yes, i usually dry it out a bit. I tend to keep an ounce or so in a pouch on my desk which helps bring it to my preferred moisture level. "Light crisp' is a perfect description. @BenMN, thanks for the additional info!
 

f4phantomdriver

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Jun 23, 2019
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I suffer from this same affliction and through a lot of experimenting I've decided it's not actually the acidity, it's the opposite. Everybody's mouth chemistry is a little different and I think a lot of "tongue bite" and overall mouth discomfort is caused by tipping your mouths acidity too far in one direction.

When I tried smoking Virginia heavy blends by themselves, not a good time. Smoking it with something like tea, even worse. However if I drink something relatively acidic alongside it's fantastic and I have little to no discomfort. So my unscientific conclusion is that virginias will make your mouth more alkaline and by drinking something acidic, my choice is a soda, you can offset this effect. Worth a shot anyway.

Back on topic: I really liked Winchester but I'm curious if you guys dry it out at all? Out of the jar it's pretty moist for me but then again I like to dry to a light crisp.
Hey, I actually smoke Winchester right out of the jar. I don't have an issue with needing to dry it out. Could be too that I've gotten an older batch maybe. I usually dry out flakes and Lakelands. Winchester and Pegasus are my main smokes right now and they are pretty much ready to go from the jars. Peter Stokkebye stuff rips my tongue up too. I bought some PS English Luxury and loved it, but the bite was awful
 

LeafErikson

Lifer
Dec 7, 2021
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Oregon
I suffer from this same affliction and through a lot of experimenting I've decided it's not actually the acidity, it's the opposite. Everybody's mouth chemistry is a little different and I think a lot of "tongue bite" and overall mouth discomfort is caused by tipping your mouths acidity too far in one direction.

When I tried smoking Virginia heavy blends by themselves, not a good time. Smoking it with something like tea, even worse. However if I drink something relatively acidic alongside it's fantastic and I have little to no discomfort. So my unscientific conclusion is that virginias will make your mouth more alkaline and by drinking something acidic, my choice is a soda, you can offset this effect. Worth a shot anyway.

Back on topic: I really liked Winchester but I'm curious if you guys dry it out at all? Out of the jar it's pretty moist for me but then again I like to dry to a light crisp.
I don't dry it out at all but I'm smoking it in a meerschaum which, as well all know, is the objectively superior pipe material. puffy
 

Swiss Army Knife

Can't Leave
Jul 12, 2021
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North Carolina
I've ordered C&D bulk from three stores now, and they are always bone dry - Pegasus, Shandygraf and OJK.

Still delicious, and only the Pegasus needed reviving (it was one hard rub from snuf).

Is that typical or have I been unlucky?
Either unlucky or your definition of bone dry differs from most.

I'd say 1/3 of the bulk blends I buy, regardless of blender, show up at "light crisp" levels of dryness which is about perfect for me. I've only had one blend, 2oz of 507s from TPC, arrive bone dry. So it should be pretty rare.
 
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BenMN

Lifer
Jun 21, 2023
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I've ordered C&D bulk from three stores now, and they are always bone dry - Pegasus, Shandygraf and OJK.

Still delicious, and only the Pegasus needed reviving (it was one hard rub from snuf).

Is that typical or have I been unlucky?
I have tried a few samples of bulk that I felt were dry or otherwise tired out. And then I think this is not what the blender/ house intended. And I think I may not be getting a fair impression of the blend.

The 1# and 5# bags C&D uses seem capable of at least months of stable storage.

So, if there's something I'm interested in, I'll give it a good think. Then, either buy a pound or nothing.
 

LeafErikson

Lifer
Dec 7, 2021
2,172
19,056
Oregon
I've ordered C&D bulk from three stores now, and they are always bone dry - Pegasus, Shandygraf and OJK.

Still delicious, and only the Pegasus needed reviving (it was one hard rub from snuf).

Is that typical or have I been unlucky?
That is not typical of my experience purchasing c&d bulk from SPC.

I am a massive fan of the Laudisi brand tree so I exclusively purchase my tobaccos from SPC. I can’t speak to purchasing c&d bulk from any other online retailers.
 

Annaresti Red

Starting to Get Obsessed
Jan 20, 2021
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Concord, CA
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Either unlucky or your definition of bone dry differs from most.

I'd say 1/3 of the bulk blends I buy, regardless of blender, show up at "light crisp" levels of dryness which is about perfect for me. I've only had one blend, 2oz of 507s from TPC, arrive bone dry. So it should be pretty rare.
That is not typical of my experience purchasing c&d bulk from SPC.

I am a massive fan of the Laudisi brand tree so I exclusively purchase my tobaccos from SPC. I can’t speak to purchasing c&d bulk from any other online retailers.

The only one I've ever got that dry from SPC (out of 20 times) was that Pegasus, and after I bought it, it showed out of stock, it must have been the last bit. After reviving it was excellent.

The few other times things were dry, they weren't terribly so.
 

f4phantomdriver

Starting to Get Obsessed
Jun 23, 2019
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I've ordered C&D bulk from three stores now, and they are always bone dry - Pegasus, Shandygraf and OJK.

Still delicious, and only the Pegasus needed reviving (it was one hard rub from snuf).

Is that typical or have I been unlucky?
I order all my C&D bulk blends from SP. Because the C&D manufacturing is done there and the freshest. To be honest most of my tobacco comes from SP because I smoke a lot of Gawith Hoggarth blends too. Now, when P&C has a sale on tins like University Flake, Royal Yacht, Irish Flake etc. I'll buy from them. Plus I live like an hour away from their warehouse so if I order something early in the morning 9 times out of 10 I get my package the next day through UPS. I've been smoking two County Square tobaccos lately so I've been cheating on Pegasus and Winchester lol.