C&D Does Not Use Dark Fired In Their Bulk Blends. Wondering Why...

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jeremyreeves

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May 14, 2015
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Hey guys. We do use Dark Fired in a few of our Bulk offerings, as you've noted. We offer Dark Fired in Bulk, as well as using the exact same Dark Fired leaf in Belmont Station, Engine #113 and Shelbyton. This is the same DFK that we use in all the tinned blends that contain DFK, except Savinelli 140th and Sansepolcro. Dark Fired is a challenging leaf type to process, and so it's not always in stock in Bulk. As for it not being used in Bulk blends as much, that's more just how it has happened, rather than by any sort of conscious design.

We use a lot of Dark Fired KY in tinned products, in the C&D, GL Pease, Briarworks, and Warped lines. As for not listing it in descriptions, we don't do that very often with any component and we always have disclosed DFK in blends. Speakeasy, for example, contains nearly 3% Dark Fired. That's the smallest quantity of Dark Fired used in any of the blends that call for it, but we still mention it in the description. Why? Because, to me, it's presence is unmistakable, even in such small proportion. There is no instance where we have ever substituted DFK for Perique at the blending level and we do not intend to start. I have recently addressed that elsewhere on this forum. If that is something that some manufacturers are doing, I find the idea puzzling, like substituting Liquid Smoke for Hoisin Sauce and expecting no one to notice. All that I can say for certain is that this is not something we are doing, nor is any ]one who is making Perique, substituting Dark FIred leaf and passing it off as Perique. There is a processed Dark Fired, that gets pressed in barrels for a year, like Perique. It is made by Mark Ryan for exclusively for one cigar manufacturer. That product is called Cajun Black, is a totally different product from Perique and would not sub in for Perique, due to smell, taste and strength differences. It is also more expensive, with lots less of that product being made than Perique. The whole notion of swapping DFK for Perique doesn't make any sense to me and I have heard no concrete evidence that anyone is doing it. I have heard only that HU blend, which is a VA/Per/DFK blend, seemed more DFK forward in more recent batches. For what that's worth.

Oh and no, there is no Dark Fired in Big n' Burley, just Dark Burley, Perique, Latakia and Oriental.

Hope this helps!
 
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