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Barling 1882 Silver Spigot Windcap
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Good question! Anywhere from a few bucks for the superglue slop jobs that some owners do, to a couple of hundred (I would imagine) to have the mend professionally done with an added custom made sterling collar at the join to strengthen it. And points in between.
Interesting thread this has been and with some very beautiful smoking tools. I tell ya, I would not be taking any of those out drinking. Terrible shame about that broken stem but I'm sure it will sell to someone who will do the right thing for it. Thanks for sharing guys.
Very interesting thread. Beautiful reference pictures and great historic info.
I have always been astounded by the fact that amber can be bent. I guess it isn't too far fetched, since it is tree sap, but it still surprises me when I think about it.
I have always been astounded by the fact that amber can be bent. I guess it isn't too far fetched, since it is tree sap, but it still surprises me when I think about it.
I have just been sent this message through e-bay from a e-bay member
greetings...I wanted to inform you...whist your pipe is certainly quite nice, the silver work date is correct, and it is indeed Barling silver, the pipe itself is NOT!
It is BBB, as in Blumfield's Best Briars, formerly of Adolf frankau Company, till 1856. I know, I have the only know BBB magnum in existence, it's larger than most of my Dunhill magnums, and we too are writing a book of pipes...I'v been asked several times, after people saw parts of my collection at shows.
Do you have any other old English pipes? if so....pix, prices...I may well be interested. this is a serious inquiry, so it really would be good to hear from you. thank you and regards.
As you know someone has put a link up for item for people who wish to see how it goes can after reading this message can you let me know if i am fasly describing the pipe in the title
greetings...I wanted to inform you...whist your pipe is certainly quite nice, the silver work date is correct, and it is indeed Barling silver, the pipe itself is NOT!
It is BBB, as in Blumfield's Best Briars, formerly of Adolf frankau Company, till 1856. I know, I have the only know BBB magnum in existence, it's larger than most of my Dunhill magnums, and we too are writing a book of pipes...I'v been asked several times, after people saw parts of my collection at shows.
Do you have any other old English pipes? if so....pix, prices...I may well be interested. this is a serious inquiry, so it really would be good to hear from you. thank you and regards.
As you know someone has put a link up for item for people who wish to see how it goes can after reading this message can you let me know if i am fasly describing the pipe in the title
How is it incorrect? The title is Barling mounted BBB. The description says "BBB bent billiard with sterling mounts and wind screen by Barling". At no place does it refer to the pipe as a magnum. I've seen a couple of BBB magnums with Barling sterling. They're larger and the sterling work is elaborate.
Thanks for putting my mind at rest. i did not know where this man was coming from with his comments, then when reading my title i was unsure if it was reading as if it was a barlings pipe, and yes Jesse i have again no idea why he went off about magnums as it wasn't mentioned in the description, unless it was a reference to the comment a very large pipe, or he just wanted to let me know he had the only known bbb magnum in existence. I have responded to him but as of yet no reply i may ask him to join the forum to show off this pipe .
But thanks again for helping out
But thanks again for helping out
I'd like to know who the fellow was, myself. If it's who I think it might be, then I'm even more confused by the letter. The fellow I'm thinking of showed me two cased BBB magnums with Barling sterling in mint condition. So the phrase "only known BBB magnum" has me wondering if it's somebody different, and if so, he's in for a shock. There are amazing collections out there, and their owners are very private about their holdings. There's more in the wild than any of us know about.
In any event, I'm still asking what is incorrect in this listing?
In any event, I'm still asking what is incorrect in this listing?
Here is the reply to my question to the =ebay -member about what he as stateing about the BBB pipe
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Hello again....I don't know how many BBB magnums have been seen at shows, as I certainly attend many of those in the U.S, including all the major ones, including Chicago, Vegas, Richmond, Kansas, Newark, Ohio, as well as others. I have also attended pipe clubs in Russia, including Moscow and St. Petersburg, know quite a few people who go to China, show and trade shows there, quite a few Scandinavian carvers, and the consensus, among all those people, and from having collected pipes since 1993, as in almost a quarter of a century, that no other BBB magnums have been seen. I suppose the only possibility is that there are more of them in England? If that is the case, so mote it be, it makes little difference to me, as I have many a Dunhill magnum, which is prized as far more desirable a pipe than any BBB. The other possibility is in what someone would use to classify a pipe as 'magnum', which to me, as well as those who have a true knowledge and experience with them, is generally of pipes at LEAST 3 inches tall (more is preferable), 10-12 inches long, and upwards of 180 gr (though 250-300 is preferable), and that's even considering truly old wood, that tends to be lighter, relative to size dimensions, versus newer Briars. If a book is being made out of my collection, and that's at my own behest, but out of a volume o requests from many a carver and collector alike, whilst truly superior or museum quality specimens are generally welcome, one pipe more or less is of little consequence to me.
How does this relate to your pipe? Your pipe, as I said already, does seem quite the nice piece, but it is damaged, and it is a BBB, not a Barling, just Barling silver--there is a difference. I also own a number of Barling giants, as well as a Barling pocket magnum, larger than a giant, be it smaller than a full magnum, relative to Dunhill magnum sized pipes. If you were somehow offended or misunderstood what I was trying to say, I am still nebulous where that may have occurred?
if anyone can make any sense to this mans rambling, i merely asked him to explain to me why he thought i was calling this item a barlings pipe
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Hello again....I don't know how many BBB magnums have been seen at shows, as I certainly attend many of those in the U.S, including all the major ones, including Chicago, Vegas, Richmond, Kansas, Newark, Ohio, as well as others. I have also attended pipe clubs in Russia, including Moscow and St. Petersburg, know quite a few people who go to China, show and trade shows there, quite a few Scandinavian carvers, and the consensus, among all those people, and from having collected pipes since 1993, as in almost a quarter of a century, that no other BBB magnums have been seen. I suppose the only possibility is that there are more of them in England? If that is the case, so mote it be, it makes little difference to me, as I have many a Dunhill magnum, which is prized as far more desirable a pipe than any BBB. The other possibility is in what someone would use to classify a pipe as 'magnum', which to me, as well as those who have a true knowledge and experience with them, is generally of pipes at LEAST 3 inches tall (more is preferable), 10-12 inches long, and upwards of 180 gr (though 250-300 is preferable), and that's even considering truly old wood, that tends to be lighter, relative to size dimensions, versus newer Briars. If a book is being made out of my collection, and that's at my own behest, but out of a volume o requests from many a carver and collector alike, whilst truly superior or museum quality specimens are generally welcome, one pipe more or less is of little consequence to me.
How does this relate to your pipe? Your pipe, as I said already, does seem quite the nice piece, but it is damaged, and it is a BBB, not a Barling, just Barling silver--there is a difference. I also own a number of Barling giants, as well as a Barling pocket magnum, larger than a giant, be it smaller than a full magnum, relative to Dunhill magnum sized pipes. If you were somehow offended or misunderstood what I was trying to say, I am still nebulous where that may have occurred?
if anyone can make any sense to this mans rambling, i merely asked him to explain to me why he thought i was calling this item a barlings pipe
Okay, he's not the collector I was thinking about and he doesn't write like a native English speaker. He thinks that you claimed that the pipe was made by Barling, which you did not, and that you're claiming it to be a Magnum because of the length, which you also did not. His English comprehension is a little off is all. From his description of his holdings, he's a passionate collector with deep pockets. His definition of magnum size is his own and not anyone elses. He likes giant pipes.
I've seen both BBB and Barling magnums, and they weren't in this guys collection though they would fit that ridiculous definition. The Barling was so large that it looked more like a store display than anything that anyone would choose to smoke. That said, the grain was gorgeous, the bowl about 3" in circumference and height, about 10 1/2" in length, cased, with the domed "Motor" windcap. One of the most astonishing Barlings I've seen.
In any event, nothing to worry about with this guy. He means no harm, and doesn't quite comprehend the description. It would be nice if guys like him would share the wealth and post their pipes at Pipedia to help build a record which it's still possible to do so, rather than keep it in the dark.
I've seen both BBB and Barling magnums, and they weren't in this guys collection though they would fit that ridiculous definition. The Barling was so large that it looked more like a store display than anything that anyone would choose to smoke. That said, the grain was gorgeous, the bowl about 3" in circumference and height, about 10 1/2" in length, cased, with the domed "Motor" windcap. One of the most astonishing Barlings I've seen.
In any event, nothing to worry about with this guy. He means no harm, and doesn't quite comprehend the description. It would be nice if guys like him would share the wealth and post their pipes at Pipedia to help build a record which it's still possible to do so, rather than keep it in the dark.
I did ask him to join the site he could be made aware of other pipes around. I also noted he is from the USA
Jesse --- The guy who contacted kingfisher is almost certainly Pavel Lvov. He is, um... colorful and independent minded? Yeah, that's it. Colorful and independent minded. 8)
I'll only comment that owning a lot of expensive rarities doesn't require an extensive knowledge of them, or even correct information. It simply takes money.
I'll only comment that owning a lot of expensive rarities doesn't require an extensive knowledge of them, or even correct information. It simply takes money.
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