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KaunThePiper

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We want privacy, and need security.

Otherwise we could be murdered in our beds.


Somewhere on the scale of government oppression from the totalitarian police state of North Korea to the anarchy of Somalia are modern Western democracies, what Churchill called Christian Civilization.

In those nations the sick can get strong drugs to ease their suffering, but those same drugs cannot be sold without prescription.

My sincere belief is that nicotine and pipe smoking is a wonderful drug to relieve the storms of life.

But don’t market or sell it to kids.

(They enjoy it too much.:) )
Yeah of course. I agree with that. I think our government should focus on our border security, and not the Ukraine's. That's where security from the government begins. Scammers, fraudsters, murderers, and the like are for the local law enforcement. Unless it's capital murder.
Hell, think social media is worse for kids than tobacco, but I agree tobacco or nicotine products should not be marketed to kids.

"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." -Benjamin Franklin

"Stay strapped, or get clapped." -George Washington (Probably)😂
 

romaso

Lifer
Dec 29, 2010
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Go to around the 3 minute marks.
"The tobacco monitoring system".
WTF!!!!!!!!!

The Global Tobacco Surveillance System (GTSS) aims to enhance country capacity to design, implement, and evaluate tobacco control interventions, and monitor key articles of the World Health Organization’s (WHO) Framework Convention on Tobacco Control (FCTC) and components of the WHO MPOWER technical package.

Global Tobacco Control
 

Briar Lee

Lifer
Sep 4, 2021
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Yeah of course. I agree with that. I think our government should focus on our border security, and not the Ukraine's. That's where security from the government begins. Scammers, fraudsters, murderers, and the like are for the local law enforcement. Unless it's capital murder.
Hell, think social media is worse for kids than tobacco, but I agree tobacco or nicotine products should not be marketed to kids.

"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." -Benjamin Franklin

"Stay strapped, or get clapped." -George Washington (Probably)
No matter which side of the political divide you fall, we all celebrate when the police catch the boogeyman who murders college girls.



Law enforcement sources told ABC News that police identified Kohberger as a suspect, at least in part, by using DNA technology, and police then tracked the grad student to Pennsylvania through his car.


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What is the golden middle, where we have both privacy and effective law enforcement?

That’s the only debate, worth having.
 
What is the golden middle, where we have both privacy and effective law enforcement?

That’s the only debate, worth having.
The only debate? Not quite. In terms of privacy, the proverbial horse has already left the barn.

Humans are highly susceptible to negative influences and negative programming. The Western culture has embraced materialism , hedonism, and nihilism as a foundation for moral decision making. It is a recipe for creating monsters, and no amount of law enforcement will protect us from them.
 

beargreasediet

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The only debate? Not quite. In terms of privacy, the proverbial horse has already left the barn.

Humans are highly susceptible to negative influences and negative programming. The Western culture has embraced materialism , hedonism, and nihilism as a foundation for moral decision making. It is a recipe for creating monsters, and no amount of law enforcement will protect us from them.

Which begs the question, why was Tavistock studying shell shock, and what did they do with their research?
 

Briar Lee

Lifer
Sep 4, 2021
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The only debate? Not quite. In terms of privacy, the proverbial horse has already left the barn.

Humans are highly susceptible to negative influences and negative programming. The Western culture has embraced materialism , hedonism, and nihilism as a foundation for moral decision making. It is a recipe for creating monsters, and no amount of law enforcement will protect us from them.

Idaho has the death penalty and the bad guy that murdered those college kids is almost certain to get it.

It won’t prevent all the murders, but at least in a hundred years they’ll know how his story ended.


Crime isn’t new.

We just have new ways of catching criminals.
 
Idaho has the death penalty and the bad guy that murdered those college kids is almost certain to get it.

It won’t prevent all the murders, but at least in a hundred years they’ll know how his story ended.


Crime isn’t new.

We just have new ways of catching criminals.
It’s not new but we as a society we are creating social paths by the minute. The death penalty won’t give any comfort to the victims to come.
Which begs the question, why was Tavistock studying shell shock, and what did they do with their research?
Apparently flip on some switches.
 

sablebrush52

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Idaho has the death penalty and the bad guy that murdered those college kids is almost certain to get it.

It won’t prevent all the murders, but at least in a hundred years they’ll know how his story ended.
The death penalty has never been much of a deterrent, since the majority of murders are the result of spontaneous passion. But that's not the point of it, it's to satisfy the emotional needs of the victims and the community, the "eye for an eye".

In the case of this particular mass murderer, he was studying criminology and doing some "field work" on what it felt like to murder someone. He's clearly a psychopath. Any attempt at an insanity plea will likely go flat, because there's a need to kill the killer.

The debate continues over how much surveillance will be tolerated in the name of protecting ourselves from crazies like this guy. Some of us are all too happy to sacrifice everyone to every predator so that they can believe themselves delivered from surveillance. Others lean in the opposite direction.

The problem is with the use of surveillance to analyze our desires and to sell them for profit, to make algorithmic simulacrums of us for other uses, to steal our images and deep fake us into places we've never been, doing things we've never done. Used to be seeing is believing. It's so not that simple anymore.

Going to be interesting times, as surveillance continues to expand. Depending upon who gets to pull the levers, the possibility for a life of imprisonment for every human being is quite real.
 

georged

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Mar 7, 2013
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As I've said many times: Humans don't change, only the technology they use does.

Meaning that today--this minute---there are thousands of wannabe Maos, Pol Pots, Hitlers, Mussolinis, Stalins, and Caligulas who are using the latest technology (plus what is coming) in every way they can in order to Be In Charge.

There are no rules, and they have no concience. Their decision process is simple: They favor any action that results in them having more power.

The end.

Anyone naive enough, or uninformed enough, or willfully ignorant enough, or delusional enough to disregard the rapidly emerging control measures that orbit around personal information and electronic commerce are the target of these creatures.

Herding the sheep with fear, outrage, and outright bullshit (misdirection) has never been easier, either. Why? Because the means of delivering it has been packaged and sold to them as something that's necessary and expected for a modern lifestyle.
 

jpberg

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Aug 30, 2011
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The only debate? Not quite. In terms of privacy, the proverbial horse has already left the barn.

Humans are highly susceptible to negative influences and negative programming. The Western culture has embraced materialism , hedonism, and nihilism as a foundation for moral decision making. It is a recipe for creating monsters, and no amount of law enforcement will protect us from them.
How did that happen? Too much conservative thought? Too much religion? Too much limited government?
If you want to have this conversation honestly, let’s have it.
Let’s discuss the decline of America.
Maybe start in 1964.
 
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