Am I Paranoid, or is This Happening?
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It will likely get to a point where trying to live within the system is more annoyance than it’s worth and it’s easier to split from the whole system. I actually look forward to this happening but many won’t be able to handle it.Paranoid? Yes and No. As technology advances, privacy diminishes. This, unfortunately, is inevitable. Our worldbecoming a smaller and smaller place.
My bank calls me if there is a question regarding a charge. I like a customer oriented bank.
Yep PayPal looks upon tobacco, guns, gun parts, as bad bad bad, instituted a policy that cost them a downward spiral on their stock , they pulled back, my oldest Son quit them, too much trying to mess in your business. This country is headed for the 
chute !
chute !Usually it's automated and i'd be surprised if someone had eyes on your account, some cards are automatically locked when you try to make a transaction in another country, happened with a bank card when i was buying cigars overseas, had to call them up and tell them to take that "check" off the card at first they told me they could only take it off for 6 months at a time, which was BS and they took it off completely. Usually these things are for your own protection.
Amusingly enough the same card was later used to pay off someone's cable bill and non-returned equipment fee to the tune of $300+ ..I had to literally wait for them to mail me forms to fill out and send back swearing i didn't ensure those charges, even though I told them i had the persons name and address would they like it to prosecute, i was told no they don't bother with those things. It would cost more than it was worth to go after people making those type of charges, yet i had to prove my innocence before they would refund the money to my account. Seriously pissed me off, only time I've ever had an issue with Chase.
Amusingly enough the same card was later used to pay off someone's cable bill and non-returned equipment fee to the tune of $300+ ..I had to literally wait for them to mail me forms to fill out and send back swearing i didn't ensure those charges, even though I told them i had the persons name and address would they like it to prosecute, i was told no they don't bother with those things. It would cost more than it was worth to go after people making those type of charges, yet i had to prove my innocence before they would refund the money to my account. Seriously pissed me off, only time I've ever had an issue with Chase.
I would now like to take the opportunity to say this to those that laughed while I was buying tobacco like there was no tomorrow.
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Visa,Mastercard and american Express track gun store purchases using a specific merchant code.
you're paranoid. All that happened and this is a thing that happens. Your card got dinged with purchases from enough different places in just the right way to look like possible fraud (a thief using your card). This is an occasional thing that happens now and pretty much means nothing otherwise then the bank would rather not have to deal with a stolen card being used to buy lots and lots of things and them having to eat the cost.
And finally I just have to point out that over 90 percent of the time some one says "that x or y is going to happen, that shit doesn't pan out at all". My recommendation is actually check and verify the hits and misses they make. Starts helping separate the knows what they're talking about from the talking sheet.
I’m glad I’m at the point in life where I can pay for those things in cash. I hate when companies take up “social responsibilities“ as though they know what is best for us.
I’ll have to research this more. I have questions but don’t want to keep you tethered. What do they do with these codes? Is there a threshold that triggers an FBI visit or whatever? It could be some 1984 ish or they could be coding it to sell your info, not dissimilar to what Facebook and all those do. This seems pointless to track from a future-crime prevention standpoint though. I know a bunch of harmless old geezers that buy copious amounts of ammunition and they are plotting nothing more devious than another day at the range.
I’ve had a gas purchase declined at the pump because I drove 250 miles away - you know, like you do in a car that’s actually used to uh drive - and they flagged it as fraudulent.
Okay, but somebody’s using that same card fraudulently and simultaneously in 5 different countries for thousands of dollars didn’t raise any red flags???
Um, calling bullshit on their security protocols, lol.
In the end they reversed the fraudulent charges and the gas station thing was fixed with a quick (ish) phone call once I got through the phone tree but it is a brave new world we’re living in, ain’t it?
Okay, but somebody’s using that same card fraudulently and simultaneously in 5 different countries for thousands of dollars didn’t raise any red flags???
Um, calling bullshit on their security protocols, lol.
In the end they reversed the fraudulent charges and the gas station thing was fixed with a quick (ish) phone call once I got through the phone tree but it is a brave new world we’re living in, ain’t it?
Which is why I don't use my credit card to replace the guns and ammo I tragically lost in a canoe accident.
Regardless of whether the OP's experience was triggered by tobacco or not, what's on display is the degree of observation and potential control that people in The System have over what you can do with your money.
The technical capability to do it is no longer theorectical.
Soon, assorted fine print paragraphs will be piggybacked to legislation about something innucuous to make such interference and control LEGAL (only small stuff at first, of course), and the real fun will begin.
The technical capability to do it is no longer theorectical.
Soon, assorted fine print paragraphs will be piggybacked to legislation about something innucuous to make such interference and control LEGAL (only small stuff at first, of course), and the real fun will begin.
Few years back, a bank will lock my account every time I used my debit card. Call them up and yelled at few people and the problem was resolved. I like working with reasonable people.
I can see the future technocracy locking me down for exceeding the allowable beers per month, and my ESG score in the undesirable range
Welcome to Coporatism. Golden shield is coming to a town near you.
“Paranoids are the only ones who notice things anymore.”
--Anatole Broyard
--Anatole Broyard
Also yes your bank is watching you, so is your toaster.
First time that happened to me it was in a gas station in a sketchy neighborhood in Baltimore. Fortunately I had a bank debit card that worked. I get the reason for this stuff but if I forget to notify Discover that I'm travelling it happens because my card shows up being used in a zip code far from home and it is flagged because it might have been stolen or hacked. Still, I do not want to be tracked, filmed recorded or now days having my face in a facial recognition data base.
Don't be paranoid my friend just wear one of these new anti-government non-mind reading devices!
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