Alternatives To Classic Tobacco Blends
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Aka miserable attempt to troll ?? JK I think these discussion are always good to have.
I thought that was wierd also, but most reviews of Charatan's I have seen suggest they never really got that close to the Dunhill blends. They also say that they are quite good on their own, so I think Chartan's might have shot themselves in the foot trying to say they are replacements.
I've only tried Curzon mixture myself, which I never really took too. I love Red Raparee though - it's a shame that Kolhase & Klopp seem to bath everything in Propylene Glycol (I suspect anyway, all the stuff they make seems to have 'something' about them).
It was designed as a substitute for 5100 when used as a component in a blend not as a standalone, and it does that pretty well. I happen to like 515 RC-1 quite a bit as a standalone.
But, again, this is a list of alternatives, not replacements or matches, more like "something in the vein of".
what are you one of those people that believe word choice matters and carries important meaning and nuance?
Fair points one & all!
But, at the same time, I struggle to believe that they aren't a touch closer than Bold Kentucky is to Royal Yacht!
Whether you think of a blend as a match, an attempted match, or an alternative, I think the real idea is to find something you like, the comparison not withstanding. Several match blends I've tried don't match that well but are quite tasty in their own right. Trying to line blends up in a chart like this is a thankless task and/or a fool's errand.
The FMC suggestions all contain noticeable burley, which is quite foreign to FMC.
Boswell's Northwoods is the most commonly suggested alternative.
Another is Just for Him's Whiskey Biscuit Gravy. (Recently tried -- Outstanding.)
I have also noticed a connection in Fusilier's Ration.
As many of you have pointed out, these alternatives are not matches.
They're more like attempts to say,
"Here, if you liked that, then you may have the kind of palate which would also like this."
To use a food analogy:
People who like toffee tend to the be the kind of people who like caramel. (Or apples and pears. Or parmesan and asiago. Etc.) Nobody is suggesting that they're the same thing. But a palate which likes one is often a palate which likes the other.
Boswell's Northwoods is the most commonly suggested alternative.
Another is Just for Him's Whiskey Biscuit Gravy. (Recently tried -- Outstanding.)
I have also noticed a connection in Fusilier's Ration.
As many of you have pointed out, these alternatives are not matches.
They're more like attempts to say,
"Here, if you liked that, then you may have the kind of palate which would also like this."
To use a food analogy:
People who like toffee tend to the be the kind of people who like caramel. (Or apples and pears. Or parmesan and asiago. Etc.) Nobody is suggesting that they're the same thing. But a palate which likes one is often a palate which likes the other.
I just find all this time spent on looking for replacement blends a true waste of time.
You bet! And when my staff is taking color review notes I can be a real sticlker for using the correct terminology. The vast number of people I've met and worked with over the decades are poor to middling communicators.
in professional settings specificity is key. There should be no reason to leave any doubt or room for interpretation. Well at least during the stages you're working on projects.
Even so how can you explain them saying LNF under Bells Three Nuns? Haha
Exactly. Specificity cuts down mistakes, which impact scheduling and budget. So when I use VERY careful and EXACT language in delivering guidance and ask that that specific language be included in the notes, and find that it has not, I will raise hell over it. There are people I like very much as people who I will not approve for hire because they can't figure this out. They can fuck up some other production.
Nope, except that they had just given up at that point. Bell's Three Nuns hasn't been made in more than a century.
There are times for fuffing about (not even sure that's a real phrase and certainly isn't a real word) but not when it costs a lot. Time, money, peoples health and well being, and a good few others.
I've noticed that because in the idea phase the germination stage being loose and often vague has it's advantages, a lot of people think that creatives shouldn't or can't be specific (clearly they've never watched one mixing paints). You know the phase before much has been invested or committed.
