About To Give Up On Non Aromatics

[cosmicfolklore]

It's been stated many times on here as well as in "The Books of Pipes and Tobacco" by Carl Ehwa.

Then it should be no problem finding some evidence of this claim. An, excerpt from a book or even an old ad. Because I have NEVER heard someone say this on here. Yes, plain tobacco can be aromatic and is often stated to be aromatic in quality, but the term "aromatics" in relation to the genre is older than us.

 

[Chasing Embers]

uuuuuuummmmm, can you show some evidence of this?

 

[Chasing Embers]

Then it should be no problem finding some evidence of this claim. An, excerpt from a book or even an old ad. Because I have NEVER heard someone say this on here. Yes, plain tobacco can be aromatic and is often stated to be aromatic in quality, but the term "aromatics" in relation to the genre is older than us.

I actually heard it called fragrant before aromatic. I hadn't heard the term aromatic used for flavored tobaccos until I started ordering online around 2009.

 

[generalzod]

Wereas in the EU any decent Bourbon will cost more than average good scotch

That makes complete sense.

 

[cosmicfolklore]

Very good... see, that wasn't so hard... but, I remember the term "aromatics" used to mean tobacco with added scents, going back to the 80's and the old mall Tinderboxes with jars full of apricot, apple, cherry, etc...

In all of our discussions where you state that you can "taste" aromatics, and folks (including myself) have claimed that it is meant to be smelled... you have never mentioned this.

You, however are unique... in that out of my pipe club of 30+, talking to guys at pipe shows, and setting around in the Briary all day... I have never met anyone who has made the claim that they can taste aromatics, as in what we all know the genre to be. It is smelled, which smell is 90% of the food experience, so it is harder to differentiate for some. If I smoke an aromatic with a clothes pin on my nose, I get nothing but hot air. And, yes, most of the flavor of a non-aro is also sensed through the nose, but I can at least perceive sweetness or nuttiness without smelling when smoking a non-aro.

But, my hat's off to you...

 

[Chasing Embers]

you have never mentioned this.

About aromatics being orientals?

 

[cosmicfolklore]

BTW, this morning I was smoking Mac Baren's 7 Seas Red Cherry aromatic this morning as I drove my wife to her friends. I had just popped the tin and was my first smoke of this, I was wondering if it even had any cherry in it, but my wife started telling me how it had a very candy smell, which I couldn't sense at all.
So, I get out of the truck, walk her up to the door, return to the truck... and that is when I smelled cherry for the first time.

 

[cosmicfolklore]

About aromatics being orientals?

No... I still don't believe that the term "aromatics" were meant to be the moniker for the genre of Orientals. I grew up with the term meaning scented tobaccos.

But, at least we know that you just didn't make it up, ha ha.

 

[Chasing Embers]

I have never met anyone who has made the claim that they can taste aromatics

You've never met Jim?

 

[Chasing Embers]

No... I still don't believe that the term "aromatics" were meant to be the moniker for the genre of Orientals. I grew up with the term meaning scented tobaccos.

But, at least we know that you just didn't make it up, ha ha.

My faith is very unforgiving about deceit.

 

[cosmicfolklore]

My faith is very unforgiving about deceit.

Are you claiming that I have deceived in some way?

 

[Chasing Embers]

Are you claiming that I have deceived in some way?

Nope, just saying I don't as you seemed to imply.

 

[cosmicfolklore]

Ok... Captain... I never claimed that you were lying. I was claiming that you were incorrect, or misinformed. But, I never said liar. You said that, Captain.
I still think that you are misinformed, if you are claiming that the term "aromatic" was not meant to be what we call tobacco with crap added to it, and that we are all stupid for not using it to refer to Orientals.

If you wish to refer to Orientals as "Aromatics" go ahead. But, no one will know what the hell your talking about.

 

[alaskanpiper]

Holy balls gentlemen. No need to kill each other over a simple semantic observation.

 

[cosmicfolklore]

Holy balls gentlemen. No need to kill each other over a simple semantic observation.

Ha ha!!! Nothing to see here. Keep moving...

I merely asked for evidence.

 

[anotherbob]

Never understood people like this. There is already plenty in life to give a shit about. Why add to that list when you can just relax and let people do their own thing?

it's the same reason some people choose an arbitrary moral stance surprisingly the one that's easy for them to follow. The only difference is what they're trying to show off. With taste it's a sign of a boring person whose only interesting trait is drinking or smoking, with morality it's a person who needs help pretending to be good (example that fat ugly guy who never cheats on his wife but only because no one would want to help him with that sin). Or at least that's my opinion and I am sticking with it.

 

[anotherbob]

Who can't taste aromatics? Sure you might need to smell them too but that's how taste works in general. I mean you of course know about that clothes pin on the nose demonstration where you eat onions and apples and it's like really hard to tell which is which without smell.

 

[d750]

I find that good scotch and good bourbon are fairly close in price. Blanton's, Four Roses Single Barrel, maybe a bit cheaper than good basic single malts like 10-12 year Macallan, Glenfiditch, Laphroaig, etc. You can get good single malts for less and good single barrel bourbons for less as well.

 

[Akousticplyr]

 

[Chasing Embers]

More on Orientals as aromatics.

A lone wolf on aromatic or Oriental pipe tobacco

by Ben Rapaport Is an aromatic or Oriental blend one of your preferred pipe tobaccos? In a sense, it’s a trick question. Today, the distinction between aromatics and Orientals is sharply draw…

pipesandtobaccosmagazine.com