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    Cravings and Withdrawal

    That's definitely your stance and you made that clear, but other people disagree with it, not just me, and have personal and intuitive evidence enough to convince themselves. And I'm just a doubter that tobacco or nicotine is universally addictive given that it's very unique in terms of its...
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    Cravings and Withdrawal

    I guess we can't acknowledge that there are other things that modulate the propensity to return to a useful substance other than being addicted to it, then. For example sugar. Which is a macro nutrient, not an addictive drug. Whether something is addictive has more to do with withdrawal than...
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    Cravings and Withdrawal

    That hasn't been my intention at all so I'm sorry to hear that it's come through and been perceived that way. It goes without saying that senior members of a pipe smoking forum are not anti-tobacco. Some of the things I have been reading, though, seem unsubstantiated and unequivocally stated. So...
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    Cravings and Withdrawal

    Here is an interesting study, along with some comments for the study's architects: http://www.pnas.org/content/112/8/2539.full.pdf+html "Scientists discover beliefs can be just as powerful as nicotine" "Two identical cigarettes led to a discovery by scientists at the Virginia Tech Carilion...
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    Cravings and Withdrawal

    Why? Is someone who smokes a pipe once a week (and who can sustain that) in denial? What are they denying? It seems to me like the denial is coming more from people who, based on they own personal vice, cannot fathom sporadic use of tobacco. On the other hand it does happen, and it's a fact...
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    Cravings and Withdrawal

    ***Not that I condone smoking cigarettes, even additive free organic ones, but that has more to do with the method (inhalation, having a quicky) than with the quality of the tobacco.
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    Cravings and Withdrawal

    I think so, but the difference is probably less in magnitude than, say, comparing a factory made camel, marlboro, etc with an organic additive free rolling tobacco. In general, pipe tobacco that isn't "re purposed" tax evader crap is at least more innocent than cigarettes. That doesn't mean that...
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    Cravings and Withdrawal

    There are a lot of factors in that, though. In Twain's time, there were no health concerns, no taxes, no studies to verify that it is, in fact, a bad idea to inhale because it increases nicotine absorption and leads to spontaneous addiction. There was no real reason to stop, for most people, for...
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    Cravings and Withdrawal

    I think it's important to delineate "tobacco" and tobacco. In quotations, I am referring to conventional tobacco, especially cigarettes (although dippers are often just as bad off). The "more addictive than heroin" conjecture is just a talking point by the pharmaceutical backed authoritarians...
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    How often is "occasional"?

    OK thanks for clarifying. I must have been thinking of someone else. How long did you smoke cigarettes for before to a pipe? I guess there is a big difference between someone who never had any addiction and someone who smoked nails for a long time arriving at the same point. A lot of folks who...
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    How often is "occasional"?

    Here are some interesting studies and articles on the matter on nicotine, inhaling, not inhaling, etc...
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    How often is "occasional"?

    Are you the one who posted elsewhere that you don't eat sugar, or refined foods, and drink your tea black? I mean that neutrally-- I just can't remember if I remember you from another thread or not, but I think it was you because you had the same premise (addiction isn't so bad in general, and...
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    Free Pipe Project

    What a great display of camaraderie here, on a lot of levels. Not only for the financial reasons, but for new pipe smokers to start out with a respectable pipe and tobacco and save a lot of wasted motion. I'm not sure if this will be of any use to anyone or not, but if folks weren't already...
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    Nicotine Absorption-NOT Leaf Content- of Pipes Vs. Cigars

    12pups-- I think Nicotine, as a stimulant, is supposed to increase heart rate. A google search seems to suggest that, but on the other hand, google searches on smoking related subject are often not reliable. I would wager that nicotine *should* raise heart rate though. I'm not positive, but I...
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    Nicotine Absorption-NOT Leaf Content- of Pipes Vs. Cigars

    No problem with me Cosmic-- I understand cigars aren't for everyone. Or many people at all for that matter. And I can certainly understand why some people cannot *stand* cigar smoke. If I try to light a stogie when I'm not in the right headspace, yes gagging will probably occur, coughing, eyes...
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    Nicotine Absorption-NOT Leaf Content- of Pipes Vs. Cigars

    Are we talking about absorption via lungs or oral absorption regarding Virginia and PH? It was my understanding that acidic smoke was absorbed readily with inhalation but was not so in way of oral absorption. This link should take you to page 102 of this text...
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    Nicotine Absorption-NOT Leaf Content- of Pipes Vs. Cigars

    LatBomber, that's what I always thought, that there wasn't much difference between the two. But then I started noticing that even when I could smoke a toro for 45 minutes or an hour and not get the same effect as I would smoking a half bowl of English in a small pipe (like a twenty minute...
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    Nicotine Absorption-NOT Leaf Content- of Pipes Vs. Cigars

    Thanks for the responses. Kevin, I should specify my objective isn't to figure out, in an absolute sense, any difference between pipes and cigars. All the absolute stuff says that I shouldn't feel a big difference between the two though, which I do, so I wanted to start some non absolute...
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    Nicotine Absorption-NOT Leaf Content- of Pipes Vs. Cigars

    I start smoking cigars in spring of '13 after dabbling in home grown tobacco for a while. I grew a variety of Virginia bright in poor soil, and could inhale deeply with no discomfort and no noticeable nicotine buzz (even as a never smoker prior to that). I did get cigar sickness a time or two...
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    New Members, Introduce Yourself!

    Hello folks. Long time lurker here, decided to sign up finally. I started growing my own and making "rustic" pipes in 2009, picked up cigars a year ago and just started enjoying MM cobs a lot. I only smoke a couple of bowls a week, mainly for the health benefits and general enjoyment and air of...
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