I guess if we ever rob a bank, we better print the hold up note
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That, is an incredibly video. Thank you very much. I saved the link and can't wait to show my daughter!
Thank you for posting this. Invaluable on many levels. Humbling as well, makes my work seem pretty crude.
@Briarcutter --- there are companies that sell kits for making fountain pens ... just like carving your own briar pipe but there are so many affordable options out there to simply buy. Believe it or not China has a huge number of people who write with fountain pens and while some of their pens are inferior ... some are actually fantastic writers and popular among collectors. You have to know which is which though so I would refer you to TheFountainPenNetwork site which is like these forums but for fountain pens. Almost every pen in the world is reviewed there including kits. I used to read that site alot until I became interested in pipes again.
Thank you! I'm aware of the kits and I like you, use to frequent the Fountain Pen Network. Not wanting to sound snobbish, I guess a purest would be a better word, building a pen from a kit doesn't appeal to me. If I can't make the nib and feed, what's the point, no pun intended
That's probably why I'll never make one. I still have a bunch of collectable fountain pens. I need to either get them back out or sell them. Better yet, teach my daughter how to use them! I have a Sailor with a music nib, have you ever used one? It's pretty cool.
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I haven't used a Sailor but I used to buy my fountain pens at tag and jumble sales. I have a large one that is used to draw the lines to make music score sheets and I have a regular size one with three slanted tines if that is a music nib. I preferred fine points. I wanted a Mont Blanc with the calligraphy nib but alas I cannot and simply would not spend $900 + for a pen ... So I created my version which is the closest I will ever get and it only cost $2.60 ,,, I bought a Jinhao X450 for $.99 and used a vintage Sengbusch #17 fine point nib ($1.60) on it and get a close as I can given my defective abilities. However, it does add a flare to my daily writing and pushes all the buttons psychologically. I'm currently using a Pilot Metropolitan fine point as a workhorse pen. They are good as well. When your daughter starts to get better at script or calligraphy the Pelican M200 is still made with the old semi-flex nib and is a workhorse pen. Unfortunately, Pelican like Sutliff and MacBaren is out of business but there are plenty around. You can download practice sheets of almost any type of script for learning cursive. I would start with Palmer method as its simplest to learn.Thank you! I'm aware of the kits and I like you, use to frequent the Fountain Pen Network. Not wanting to sound snobbish, I guess a purest would be a better word, building a pen from a kit doesn't appeal to me. If I can't make the nib and feed, what's the point, no pun intended
Since when did Pelican go under? How sad, I'm glad I still have a few. Nothing flexes like the vintage pens.
Its in process now but announced 2023 ... they are being bought out and German plant may close.
Pelikan is in Trouble
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Its in process now but announced 2023 ... they are being bought out and German plant may close.
Pelikan is in Trouble
Sadly, it seems Pelikan is facing financial trouble, which has affected the workers (letting go, late salaries, cut benefits and bonuses) at the factory as well as the factory itself (lack of investment to modernize). This is a terrible summary of this very excellent and highly recommended blog p...
News: Pelikan Vertriebsgesellschaft (PVG) To Cease Operations
Find out about the impact of the recent acquisition on Pelikan Vertriebsgesellschaft (PVG) and its distribution operations.
Why they are in trouble is, which is the $20 Parker copy and which is the $400 Pelikan?
Yes, the German pen is better.
Not 20 times better, though.
Camon my friend, I get your point but this is like comparing a Harley to a Schwinn
Wouldn't that depend on whether you wanted to give posterity a clear and unadorned picture of who and what you were? And remember that even vellum lasts only a few centuries, so gold plates are one's best bet - in which case, we are led back to the good old uni-ball pen (and pressing hard)
Leave it to a Brit to say that a couple of hundred years isn't all that long.Wouldn't that depend on whether you wanted to give posterity a clear and unadorned picture of who and what you were? And remember that even vellum lasts only a few centuries, so gold plates are one's best bet - in which case, we are led back to the good old uni-ball pen (and pressing hard)
In Europe and Great Britain, a couple of hundred years is just getting broken in nicely....
I read a lot of letters and writings from the 19th century. Almost exclusively cursive writing. One of my cherished family history relics is a handwritten receipt of where my great grandfather bought a "sorrel horse" for $150 (which was a lot then) for "service of the cavalry of the Confederate States of America." I framed this receipt so that others coming to the house could see it. Of course, it is in cursive and no one ended up being able to read it, ha. I had to type out what it said and mount that just below the receipt.
I read a lot of letters and writings from the 19th century. Almost exclusively cursive writing. One of my cherished family history relics is a handwritten receipt of where my great grandfather bought a "sorrel horse" for $150 (which was a lot then) for "service of the cavalry of the Confederate States of America." I framed this receipt so that others coming to the house could see it. Of course, it is in cursive and no one ended up being able to read it, ha. I had to type out what it said and mount that just below the receipt.
Honestly, I don’t care about how posterity perceives me, assuming any perception whatsoever. First off, I’ll be dead, erased.
Second, the vast majority of us are forgotten as soon as we’re disposed of.
So, a piece of chalk should suffice.
I can read some people's cursive but not all. So many people write cursive in such way that it's just a clear first letter with the rest being squiggly lines. I learned to write cursive and still can but for me I have to make a conscious effort so it's quicker not to.
Some people can't write cursive for shit, because they're idiots. And, some people can't read cursive, because they are morons. This is what I get from this thread.
So do I. I do all my rough drafts by hand in a ringed notebook with a ballpoint. I used to use a computer for that but I've found I work better by hand because there's far fewer distractions, I couldn't imagine writing anything longer than a text on a phone.
Cosmic, Oh to have your gift for subtle innuendo and tact.Some people can't write cursive for shit, because they're idiots. And, some people can't read cursive, because they are morons. This is what I get from this thread.
You are my expressive hero!!