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Hillcrest

Lifer
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Why they are in trouble is, which is the $20 Parker copy and which is the $400 Pelikan?

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Yes, the German pen is better.

Not 20 times better, though.
You are comparing apples and oranges here. You may however be interested to learn that Chinese Parker knockoffs may NOT be knockoffs at all ! If you research Parker Pen and Nixon and China you will find that when Nixon opened up China to trading, one of the gifts he presented them was to have Parker grant them a license to make the Parker 45 fountain pen. Parker intended to limit the license to just the Parker 45 and gave plans for that pen to China. China however copied other Parker pens and when Parker was looking to enforce their rights it was discovered that the Chinese translation and the original license may have been drafted badly by the lawyers and it was questionable as to whether the license was for the 45 alone or for all Parker pens. Parker thus never pursued legal action in this matter as a result. So an argument can be made that the pen you claim is a 'copy' may actually be made under license. P.S. Many pen enthusiasts claim the Kaigelu version of the Parker is actually the better made pen. P.P.S. I am writing this version of the story from memory but you can search it and get the detailed specifics if you want.
 
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Hillcrest

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Speaking of writing, I always found it amusing that at one time, the earliest form of writing known to exist, was a Sumerian sign that said "We sell fish". Since then others forms of writing have been discovered. One of the earliest currently known is the The Reforms of Urakagina ... wherein he throws out corrupt politicians and tax collectors who overtaxed and misused funds ... so some things haven't changed since 2500 B.C. !

 

Richmond B. Funkenhouser

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BingBong

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I'm a bit slow sometimes... I just realised that this thread was a subtle dig at the guy who writes the blend names on the Peretti tins. D'oh!
 

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I thought this link might peak the interest of some members here. I didn't sign up and so I don't know but possibly some information regarding tobacco, pipes or cigars might be available, provided you can read cursive !

Thank you I intend to transcribe. I kind of view this as a patriotic duty of those like me who are retired and write cursive with fountain pens every day.
 
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anotherbob

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I thought this link might peak the interest of some members here. I didn't sign up and so I don't know but possibly some information regarding tobacco, pipes or cigars might be available, provided you can read cursive !

if it's the national archive they don't mean can you read cursive they mean can you read almost any bunched up quickly written cursive some civil war solider wrote to his wife or girlfriend while half starving and freezing his ass off and praying that some horrible disease or musket ball doesn't take him out in the next few days or hours. Even people who read and write cursive can struggle with a lot of historical cursive written by people that clearly would have been doctors if they lived now.
 

Choatecav

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if it's the national archive they don't mean can you read cursive they mean can you read almost any bunched up quickly written cursive some civil war solider wrote to his wife or girlfriend while half starving and freezing his ass off and praying that some horrible disease or musket ball doesn't take him out in the next few days or hours. Even people who read and write cursive can struggle with a lot of historical cursive written by people that clearly would have been doctors if they lived now.
Bob, you are so right on this. In one of my hobbies, I end up reading many letters written in the 19th century and they are almost exclusively cursive and often times written in a hurry or under duress. Very tough to do, for sure.
 
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Bob, you are so right on this. In one of my hobbies, I end up reading many letters written in the 19th century and they are almost exclusively cursive and often times written in a hurry or under duress. Very tough to do, for sure.
I've seen quite a few that I am not sure it's made of letters. Occasionally you'll see one that's beautiful and clearly written and even then the lack of standardized spelling sends you down a rabbit hole, heck Gaol still trips me up even though I know better. My brain still isn't quite convinced that's not a county in Ireland.
Also realized I should have said Beau or betrothed, which is another fun thing too. Language changes and while we could still talk to people from then, we'd both have to stop a few times and say whatever do you mean by that?
 
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