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What Is the Sweetest Straight Virginia Blend You Have Ever Smoked?

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  1. jravenwood

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    Probably discussed before but I’m making my way through some McClelland blends and thought I’d see what opinions I get. For me so far it’s a very aged tin of Mcc #27. Any straight Virginia blend counts; new or old, current or discountinued... what do you gents think?

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    McCranie's Red Ribbon the more age the better.

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    MacBarens Modern Virginia, which has an apricot toppings is about the sweetest I have had. With commercial Virginias, it is hard to separate the casing from the natural flavors. Germains Medium Flake is a very nice sweet, citrusy flavor that is about as close to a natural light cured Virginia flavor that I can think of.

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    Dan Tordenskjold Virginia Slices is the sweetest blend in my cellar. Watch City Cigar's Old Dominion is pretty sweet too, but probably because it's a crunble cake with a sweet binder. There must be some red Va blends out there that are yet sweeter than these though.

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    McClelland 5100 and 40th Anniversary. McCranies Red Ribbon although it is more refined and not as in your face as the two mcclelland blends mentioned.

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    I think of 5100 and all of the McCrannies and all McClellands as more savory than sweet. I mean, I still love them, probably more than a sweeter smoke, but still not the sweetest. Sweet tends to bite, so I rarely prefer sweet over savory anyways.
    I mean, there is a little sweetness to them, but there is also a strong middle ground savory component to the flavor. Does that make sense?

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    Wessex Brigade Campaign Dark Flake
    Rotary Navy Cut
    Brigham Klondike Gold
    Fribourg & Treyer Cut Virginia Plug
    Capstan Blue Flake
    Well aged Samuel Gawith Best Brown and Full Virginia
    John Aylesbury Luxury Flake now called Classic flake

    There are just a few for my tastes.

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    Wessex Dark Flake. It's very sweet.

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    I think Dark Star is about the sweetest McClelland, now that I think of it. It is like white sugar in flavor, very subtle. I actually enjoy Dark Star more when cube cut and mixed with a red Virginia to bring out the sweetness, mixed with the savory.

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    I'm very inexperienced with straight Virginias, but I find the H&H Marble Kake quite sweet.

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    Agreed with Cortezattic, Dan Tordenskjold Virginia Slices are indeed sweet tasting to my palate.

    Another I might mention that doesn't get a lot of attention is GH&Co. Glengarry Flake. And it's not drowned in Lakeland sauce. Sweet as can be, imho.

    Although not a 100% Virginia blend, GH&Co. Ennerdale Flake actually makes the bit on my pipes taste kinda sugary.

    As others have posted, 5100 is pretty sweet, too. One of my McC favourites is/was 5105 Stoved Virginia. It came in bulk and was intended for blending, but I really loved it as a straight up smoke. Kind of like Dark Star, only rubbed out. Very hard, tiny pieces. Stoved to the point of tobacco charcoal, if you take my meaning.

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    Yeah, Cosmic. Dark Star mixed with a bit of Red makes for a damn fine smoke. Like the way you think.

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    Newminster No. 400 Superior Navy Flake

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    +1 Javan, I am smoking that right now, with some age on it. I find it to be a lot like Virginia #1, in that it is hard to tell when that honey topping ends and the Virginia begins. But it is definitely sweet.

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    Cosmic, have you tried JF Germain Brown Flake? I find it pretty sweet as well. I just didn't care for Medium Flake all that much.

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    Yes, but I think that the Medium Flake is sweeter, maybe the sweetest that I've had, but that doesn't mean that it is a favorite. Like I said, I prefer the savory side of a MCClellands or any red Virginia. But, if only talking about the sweetness, MF takes the lead, IMO. But, I'll take another bowl of 5100 any day.

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    Agreed about the 5100 and Red Va.
    Maybe I need to re-visit Medium Flake. If I still don't like it, I'll send you the rest. LOL!

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    Maybe I didn't indicate strongly enough, but it's not really a favorite of mine. Neither is the Modern Virginia I mentioned either. But they are sweet. Just not my thing. But, if you want to toss a tin of Brown Flake this way, that would be awesome, ha ha.

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    It's a partial tin. Maybe around 40g's. Been jarred since 2008. PM me your addy.

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    Oh man this is great ! Thanks for all the replies . Dark star, yes I tried that recently but I think i need to heat it up a bit first . I still need to try Klondike gold which I was lucky enough to get from a member here.. so many to try. Keep me coming !

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    Oldtoby, I appreciate the offer, but I don't want to take your tin of a favorite smoke. You enjoy the hell out of that, and that will make me happy. Germains is too hard to come by these days, and I can take my chances with the herd. But, I appreciate the hell out of your generosity. That is an awesome offer. Thank you!!!

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    I think Dark Star is about the sweetest McClelland, now that I think of it. It is like white sugar in flavor, very subtle. I actually enjoy Dark Star more when cube cut and mixed with a red Virginia to bring out the sweetness, mixed with the savory.

    Not sure I totally agree with your savory versus sweet but I get what you're describing. I agree completely though with your Dark Star assessment, I had forgotten about that. I think 5105 is the same, very sweet which makes sense as it is also a stoved VA.

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    I have to agree on the McCranies Red Ribbon recently smoked from a tin of 83 crop tined in 99 Sweeeeeeeeet. 5100 would be my second choice which is why these two tobaccos make up 75% of my cellar.

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    5100 and McCraines Red Flake for me.

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    Astley's No.44, especially fresh from the tin is quite sweet. Germain's Medium Flake, Wessex Brigade Campaign Dark Flake, Dunhill Flake and the MacBaren rendition of Capstan Blue.

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    Dark Star is sweet. So is Twist flake and Orlik Golden Sliced. Those are probably the sweetest virginias I've had. I prefer malty bready virginias.

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    Grousemoor is down right cloying for most pipe tobacco enthusiasts; I can't get enough of it!

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    I have to agree with others... Dark Star!!!
    I only have 7oz. of 5100 left, so I'm conserving it, but I've had good luck mixing Dark Star with Brown Bogie or Brown Irish rope for a little more oomph with awesome flavor.

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    This has been a great thread, several new ones added to my cart to try out, thanks gents

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    Some aged Erik Stokkebye 1855 is pretty sweet

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    Fresh and straight out of the tin it has been Wessex Brigade Campaign Dark Flake for me. The stuff is great and tastes like Frosted Flakes. It's GGGGGreat!

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    I agree with the Dark Star, and I have some 10 year aged McLelland Dark Navy Flake that is right there too. Second place goes to a tin of FVF from 2005 that I just finished. Wow did it bloom and get super sweet and smooth in the cellar.

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    F&T CVP

    I’ll also add SG St. James Flake (I know it has Perique) but it’s one of the sweetest VA’s I’ve ever tasted.

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    Dan Tobacco's Tordenskjold Virginia Slices

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    Would now add Capstan Yellow to the list of very sweet.

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    Available:
    F&T CVP
    Capstan Blue
    Dunhill Royal Yacht
    HH Modern Virginia

    Sadly Not Available (but cellar is happy)
    McClelland - Stave-Aged Virginia 35 Ribbon
    McClelland 40th Anniversary (My Oasis blend, sadly gone, but cellar is happy)
    McClelland 5100

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    A well aged McClelland #25 would be one of the sweetest I’ve run across. There are many on the brighter echelon like Butera’s Golden Cake that are plenty sweet, but tend to fry my palate rather quickly.
    Yep!! I’d say McC #25.

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    McClelland Red & Black

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    As others mentioned, there is a difference between sweet due to the casing/topping VS naturally sweet tobacco. I lean toward the latter, more flavor and less tongue burn. Some solid recommendations already but I have to agree with the Red Ribbon or Wessex Campaign. Both are desert island blends for me.

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    I think Capstan Blue Flake is the sweetest virginia blend I have had. Orlik Golden Sliced is sweet as well, but very citrusy. Royal Yacht is sweet, but I think it's the topping, that is sweet.

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    I'm going to second Wessex Dark Flake. I received some with a few years on it, was expecting some tangy/grassy Virginia, but was sweet as can be. Not sure I loved it like the hype said I should, but definitely liked it!

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    I prefer the more savoury, bready daRK VAs as a rule; I say the sweetest straight VA I have cellared would be Christmas Cheer.

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    Capstan blue or gold. I lick my lips a lot while smoking these.

    I hear a lot about McC’s xmas cheer; sounds like I missed out there

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    Chief Catoonah Bailey's Reserve (had a bit of Perique) for me. Wonderful tobacco flavor - and amazing room note. Dick Silverman said it was not cased w/ anything. Have not smoked it in a few years because it's no longer available and I wanted to let it age.

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