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  1. sfsteves

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    If you could invite any one person, either someone who is currently living or who ever lived in this world, to join you for an evening of dinner, a smoke (or two) and conversation, which one person would you invite ... and, briefly, why?

    (NOTE: For the purposes of the question, it is to be presumed that your invitee would join you in a smoke, whether or not they actually DO/DID smoke in their life.)

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    So many choices...
    Mark Twain. Since I'm looking for an amazing conversation and a smoke, he seems an obvious choice, having enjoyed many of Twain's writings and his way with a phrase.

    It is better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to open one's mouth and remove all doubt. - Mark Twain

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    Dwight Eisenhower. Appetizers would be talking about West Point, dinner would be the presidency and the drink/smoke would be D-Day.

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    I've been unfortunate enough to have had the opportunity to actually meet and have dinner with a few of my heros, and I will never take the opportunity again. Bob Dylan is a dickhead, and I just assume to erase meeting him from memory, as it taints my enjoyment of his music. Willie Nelson and John Prine, while being a great couple of guys, I just didn't have anything to say to them. And, a few others. My best friend used to be in charge of the Alabama Theater where some of the best musicians and artists would pass through, and I had great opportunities, that I stopped taking. The thing that crosses my mind now, when I pontificate doing this again, is that these people are complete strangers. Even though we think that we know them through their art or news about them, we really don't know anything at all about them. The person and what we think we know are completely different things.

    I realize this is a creative exercise, and I don't mean to throw a monkey-wrench in the fun. I was just stating my experience... please continue.

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    Maybe Edgar Allan Poe, or perhaps James Hetfield.

    - Jason
    "Lost in thought and lost in time... While the seeds of life and the seeds of change were planted... Outside the rain fell dark and slow... While I pondered on this dangerous but irresistible pastime..."
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    @ Fadingdaylight

    I was trying to think of someone historical, but Het would be pretty good.

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    Hi Cosmic,

    You make a very good point. Besides Twain, well, actually before Twain, I had thought about dinner with my father when he was a young man. The few writings I've found of his from his youth are so very different from the father I grew up knowing.

    Also, I wouldn't mind another one on one with Ray Bradbury, but since I've already had that very great pleasure, I figured I should go for a new experience.

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    Now that I smoke a pipe I would love to have dinner with my grandfather and discuss pipes, fishing and life.

    He's the memory I salute everyday.

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    Good choice rsuninv

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    I would love to have dinner and a smoke with Ben Franklin or Sir Arthur Conan Doyle. I think the both would be fascinating. I don't know if Ben smoked a pipe or not, but knowing that he loved life to the fullest, I would say that he did.

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    my avatar speaks for itself... yet as Cosmic points out, I might not get much out of the conversation as he would probably be talking above my head whilst I made fart jokes. The obvious answer would be Christ, and since I do not know if he pipe smoker he again may not fit the mold...or any other really. So I will have to go with Hugh Hefner...for obvious reasons...

    "A pipe gives a wise man time to think and a fool something to stick in his mouth." - C.S. Lewis
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    Lucky, I love the transition that took place in your choices...

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    We he a thread like this a while back, it was lots of fun!
    Though it was more of a "top five people" kind of thing. It ended up being more like "top five forum members" instead of historical figures, which was also a lot of fun!

    I guess if I had to pick just one historical pipe smoker to have over for dinner, it would probably be Mark Twain. He seemed like a fun guy, and wasn't afraid to speak his mind!

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    Frederic Chopin if I had to pick just one. Of course he would have to play for me

    After that, Albert Einstein although I doubt that I would have anything to say to him. LOL

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    +1 Sable.
    I think I would have way more to say to my dad now, than I ever did as a younger man. Not, that I ever wasted a minute with him while alive, just...

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    I'd choose an unattached Olivia Wilde, and pray to the gods the date went well.

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    HP Lovecraft

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    I would go with Ben Franklin.

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    Aleister Crowley anyone?

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    Oh wow... good question/topic. I've racked my brain trying to come up with just one and can't seem to do it. There are so many men in history I'd love to spend time with in this way. I suppose, to be honest, I'd give my last breath to spend the time my grandfather... he meant so much to me.

    That said, here are my top 4 (I think) in no particular order:

    Bertrand Russell - his writings really helped me through a confusing spiritual time in my life.
    C.S. Lewis - I read many of his books as a teenager but don't think I fully appreciated the man's mind until I read his biography.
    Friedrich Nietzshe - quite sure he could make my head spin with new ways of viewing the world.
    Ernest Hemingway - hell, I don't really know why... just think I'd enjoy the experience.

    Enjoying my days on earth.

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    I'd choose an unattached Olivia Wilde, and pray to the gods the date went well. [8)]

    It's just dinner, conversation and a smoke. Now if the scope of activity could be defined in broader terms, well...

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    I posted a similar thread some months ago. It was not restricted to historical figures, but it was indeed fun!

    My choice would be JRR Tolkien. As well as being a serious pipe smoker he was a man of letters. If, for some reason, he declined I would choose Arthur Conan Doyle, another piper and writer but also a spiritualist; so maybe he could conduct a seance and bring Tolkien to the table. Now that WOULD be something!!

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    I would have to say Jack London. His stories have definitely inspired my love of the outdoors.

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    Leonardo DaVinci..I would love to talk to him about how he knew so much about future machines.

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    Great Grandfather on my father's side, because the family knows so little about the past.

    I'd love to pick the brain of a past ancestor. And I'd love to hear stories of the good and the bad.

    All of this would ideally be recorded, because hell yeah.

    "I was born to lose. So I'll die to win." -Breaking Benjamin
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    I hate to be that guy, but I'd invite Jennifer Lawrence or Anna Kendrick.

    But I'd probably have to go with my grandfather on my mom's side. I didn't get the chance to meet him as he passed before I was born, but I've always heard cool stories about him. It'd be cool to talk about his time as a pilot during WWII and hearing how he disciplined his kids (my mom and uncles and aunts)because I've heard some pretty funny stuff. He wasn't a pipe smoker, but he was a smoker and I don't think he'd be opposed to smoking a pipe at all. He seemed like he'd be a very latakia forward kind of guy.

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    Easy choice for me, Thomas Jefferson. I would like to hear his views on his devotion to Deism and The Enlightenment and how it influenced the writing of the Declaration Of Independence and his political views. Even smoke some of his straight Virginia tobacco with homemade distilled spirits.

    Second on my list would be Kate Upton

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    saint007, good choice and reasons re: Thomas Jefferson!

    As far as Ms Upton, there would be far more smokin' than just the pipes!

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    I'd have to go with either Tolkien or Einstein. Both of them are above me intellectually, but I've heard that both were also very fun, charismatic people. Tolkien especially seemed to be a fan of the "common man". I'm sure they'd even be able to have an enjoyable conversation with an imbecile like me.

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    [quote]Now that I smoke a pipe I would love to have dinner with my grandfather and discuss pipes, fishing and life.
    He's the memory I salute everyday.

    +1

    - Can I have my grandfather and Mark Twain? I think I would get a hell of a tongue bite if it was Olivia.

    Tobacco's a musician.And in a pipe delighteth;It descends in a close,Through the organ of the nose, With a relish that inviteth.
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    Ulysses S. Grant - The stories he could tell, the drinking, the smoking, it'll be an entertaining evening. From what I've read about him we're alot alike, personality wise.

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    My aunt Pearl who always enjoyed the smell of my pipe and had great stories to tell.

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    A wise man learns from his own.
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    My Grandfather & Dad. +1 RS

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    Sir Winston Churchill...

    "the weez"...
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    Someone that shares my political viewpoint, Will Rogers.

    Edit: After posting, my avatar reminded me, One more conversation with my dog Mick would be my first choice.

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    Michael Collins would be my first choice. I really want to know who "G" was.

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    Years ago when this question was first posed to me, my choice was Thomas Jefferson and he has remained firmly ensconced at the top of my list for all of the many years since ... I can't think of any other individual whose contributions to this (or any other) country come anywhere near the magnitude as do Jefferson's ... one of the little known reasons I find him so fascinating is that he so delighted in hosting dinner parties of the very type outlined in the question ... so much so, in fact, that he invented the lazy susan and the dumb waiter for the express purpose of having food arrive in the dining room without it having to be borne by servants ... his lazy susan was an entire door with shelves that rotated and allowed him to take plates of food and serve his guests himself, then remove the dirty dishes and send them away ... similarly, his dumb waiter brought food up from a basement level where it had been prepared ...

    He was an utterly brilliant man who could hold a learned conversation on any topic with any other individual ... and, although the question was posed in such a way as to pre-suppose that anyone selected for the dinner invite would join in a smoke, Jefferson was a tobacco farmer who was a lover of the leaf (in particular, the VA tobacco that I find so alluring) ...

    IF, for some reason, Jefferson were somehow unavailable on the date of my dinner, Mark Twain would have been my second choice ... he too was a brilliant man of many accomplishments who would make an utterly fascinating guest for an evening ...

    It's interesting that even in the limited number of responses to the question so far, some of the most common answers have been given ... in the years I've been asking this question of a great many people , the most frequent response is that they'd opt for a deceased parent or grandparent ... and a significant percentage say Jesus would be their choice ... a surprisingly (to me) frequent answer we've not seen given here is Elvis, someone I'd never even consider and cannot fathom why anyone else would either, given the many preferable alternatives.

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    Heisenberg. But I'm uncertain where we would go...

    A universe with a God would look quite different from a universe without one. A physics, a biology where there is a God is bound to look different. So the most basic claims of religion are scientific. Religion is a scientific theory.

    We are just an advanced breed of monkeys on a minor planet of a very average star. But we can understand the Universe. That makes us something very special.
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    Tough choice, probably Ernest Shackleton.

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    I'm a fan so I'd take Cary Grant as my first choice, as he smoked a pipe, was apparently a gentleman in real life, as well as (usually) the screen and second choice, JFK. I would imagine that he may have a story or two to tell, both politically and personally.

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    Alexander the Great
    A. Einstein

    Or

    BILL SHATNER! Yeah.

    Bo
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    I would like to hear his views on his devotion to Deism and The Enlightenment and how it influenced the writing of the Declaration Of Independence and his political views.

    Thomas Jefferson was a great man, no doubt. Really though, the Declaration of Independence isn't a piece of originality. It was influenced by John Locke, well, more like Jefferson paraphrased Locke's work. In addition, a lot was taken from other colonial freedom writers. George Mason, for example, published a draft of the Virginia Declaration of Independence in a Virginia Newspaper the day Jefferson began writing the one for congress. Among his writings was the following:

    "That all men are born equally free and independent, and have certain inherent natural rights, of which they cannot, by any compact, deprive or divest their posterity, among which are the enjoyment of life and liberty, with the means of acquiring and possessing property, and pursuing and obtaining happiness and safety."

    ...sound familiar?

    I'm not trying to attack the man's (Jefferson's) overall contribution to the cause, but I doubt the document would have made it through a modern college plagiarism program. I think if I had a dinner and smoke with the former president, I might ask him how it felt writing documents on freedom and individual rights while simultaneously being a wealthy owner of nearly 200 slaves.

    Damn, this got ranty. I just don't buy into the over glorification of our founding fathers.

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    Hmm, I've thought about this post a fair bit. I used to be very interested in politics and one of the most interesting Prime Ministers in Canada (perhaps an oxymoron, however) to me was Brian Mulroney. He helped draft the NAFTA agreement and fought the Quebec separatists and tried to finally get the Canadian Constitution signed by all the provinces, an attempt that ultimately failed. I think he would be a very interesting dinner companion with all the dirt and stories he could tell.

    The other would have been my Grandfather as a younger man when he was still smoking his pipes. He lead a very interesting life, an accomplished professional musician, a large hydraulic engineer and successful property investor. I think it would have been a fantastic learning experience.

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    Ernest Hemingway, with noted safari writer Peter Capstick, fly fishing writer John Gierach, and Col. Jeff Cooper would make for some interesting table talk...

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    psych: Slaves were not considered to be people or citizens 200+ years ago. There's your answer, problem solved!

    The man was drafting a document, not writing a book. It wasn't something that needed foot noting or such as he wasn't claiming it as his own.

    It is good to know that colleges are now providing classes in plagiarism. Although, judging from many published papers, the classes are skewed more to "how to" and not "one shall not steal" from the works of others, no matter how obscure. Brings to mind Doris Kearns Goodwin.

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    The person and what we think we know are completely different things.

    Hear, Hear!

    Years ago in a Teamster magazine (rag), Bruce Springsteen was featured as a champion of the "working man", in the interview he said that only teamsters would ever handle his stage equipment....about five years ago I was laid off and caught a gig on the Springsteen Tour that hauled his equipment from coast to coast..all non union. I could give a rats ass who he used as a carrier, but the guy is full of crap....and he came acros as a prima donna, the rest of his band was pretty cool and approachable including Steven Van Zandt.

    Years ago I was parked at the Hyatt in Oakland, when John Madden's "Maddencruiser" supplied by (Continental Trailways?) was parked next to mine...the guy is just like he comes across as an announcer, like a guy on a bar-stool you could talk with about anything...way cool! I spent fifteen minutes chatting with him before his driver showed up. Coach Bill Walsh (49'ers), was total class act also, deserving it's own thread...

    Charles Spurgeon would be my choice, a man of incredible intellect, and a holy life.

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    My choice would either be the father of the Atomic Bomb J. Robert Oppenheimer or the mathematical genius of Leonhard Euler, I would love to discuss physics or mathematical proofs with either of them.
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    I'd probably go with my first wife. I need to ask her what the hell she was thinking.

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    Ha ha,me too !!

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    First choice would be Ronald Reagan (I'll bring the jellybeans), second choice would be Jerry Garcia for guitar talk and a jam session.

    Matt.
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    Robert Heinlein would be my choice, though I am not sure he smoked at all. He was my icon of science fiction writers, and I would love to chat with him about how and why he wrote his works. His views on politics were quite controversial.

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