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  1. undecagon

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    I just want to remind everyone to proof read their posts! This includes checking for punctuation as well as spelling. I've seen a number of posts lately that have absolutely no commas or periods, and it makes them awful to read. And the simplest thing to fix, but too often ignored: it is I, I'm, I'd, or I've, NOT i, im, id, or ive.

    This may not be my place to bring this up, so sorry if I'm stepping on the mod's toes, but when I see too much of this going on, it starts to bug me.

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    Members are requested to proof read their posts before submitting them. Please capitalize words in the thread titles.

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    Drives me crazy.

    It's disappointing because failure to use of spell-check, proper punctuation, capitalization and run-on sentences reflect the poster's clear lack of respect for other members here.

    I think it's because many (but certainly not all) of those people are using a smart phone and it's too "hard" to post correctly.

    Pretty sad, really.

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    Where's Simon The Grammarian (ClassicGeek) when we need him?


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    I am in agreement to a point. I believe in using reasonable care in posting, but I won't do four drafts. I hope that when an error slips through no one considers it as a lack of respect on my part. Spell Check is a definite boon even though it doesn't recognize some of the pipe nomenclature.

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    Unless reffering to the software company that brought you Doom or discussing its complex interaction with ego and super-ego.

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    I think we're seeing a rise in this as more members access the forums and site using a mobile device. I personally go out of my way to make sure everything that comes from my phone is the same as if I were sitting at a computer.

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    "Mod" is not a word or an approved abbreviation for moderator as per Miriam Webster Dictionary. (mod's toes)

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    I think he meant "Mod", because his post certainly wasn't stepping on any toes here... LOL!

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    Touche Lordnoble. LOL

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    I thought the mods were the sworn enemies of the rockers.

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    I thought the mods were the sworn enemies of the rockers.

    Yes. That's the one.

    ...

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    LOL, saintpeter!

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    If I annoy or offend anyone with my spelling,grammar, punctuation, run on sentences,ect. I apologize. I am, after all, from the hills of TN! I do my best, but English never was my best subject. I like to refer to myself as a " sophisticated redneck ", although I may be a little off on the sophisticated part. It's ironic, but my wife has a BA in English and Literature! She just refers to me as a regular redneck! Lol! P.S. I'm sure I messed something up in this post as well, sorry again!

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    I would, however, hate to see (or not see) people avoiding posting for fear of improper spelling or grammar. There is too much valuable knowledge out there, not to mention experience, to miss it because of a missed comma ore pore spelink.

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    Although I try to be as grammatically correct as I can while I post on here, I do find that I make mistakes and to me that is fine because I am not an English major. I work in the construction industry and if you heard me speak in person then you wouldn't put two and two together that I am the same person writing this post.

    But when I get excited about something on here I tend to start typing as though I am speaking to you in person because this is who I am. At times I get comfortable on here as if I was just being myself not trying to sound like someone I am not . This is why I think it's inconsiderate to say that your annoyed with people well that's just my opinion I guess.

    I get it though you wanna keep a certain image on this forum but I'm just not that person who will put others down about the way they type just to do that. I like this site because of how welcoming it is not by how it critics my grammar.

    I may have taking this way out of proportion but that's just how I feel about it. Not trying to start something here just being the advocate I suppose.


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    If it is possible to use spellcheck here, can someone tell me how to employ it? This has come up before and never really resolved to my knowledge.

    Blowin' smoke since 1970.
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    Can we please leave this to the moderators to take care of in private? This kind of noise gets on my nerves. And another thing, I am sure to use the best grammar, spelling and punctuation that I can but when someone does not, I do not see it as a clear sign of their disrespect for other forum members. Geesh.

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    If it is possible to use spellcheck here, can someone tell me how to employ it?

    LOL it just shows up on mine. Little red squiggles under a word it doesn't like. On some programs there are even green squiggles for grammar. Interestingly I typed two pages of a New York Times Bestseller into a document once. It looked like Christmas.

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    I have to admit that this is a bit of a touchy subject for me.( if you haven't gathered that already). I grew up first generation Canadian and although my parents spoke English it was a really broken version of it. So I had a difficult childhood when it came to understand certain things like grammar, punctuation, and words in general. Anyway I worked hard at it in highschool and achieved 90's in English but most of the help I got from my girlfriend at the time( now my wife). She helped me through it all and taught the right ways two talk and write.

    So like all things some people just don't have the same privileges as others and it reaches a time where it's almost past the point of learning new things. So it may be this reason why I reacted the way I did because I see it as a form of bullying. Although I know that isn't your intentions I am not accusing anyone just explaining my motive.

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    It's disappointing because failure to use of spell-check, proper punctuation, capitalization and run-on sentences reflect the poster's clear lack of respect for other members here.

    I think it's because many (but certainly not all) of those people are using a smart phone and it's too "hard" to post correctly.

    My post here was not intended to slight or offend anyone who posts. Lord knows, we don't need spelling sheriffs or grammar police.

    Still, we've all seen posts with no caps, one sentence that's a five line paragraph, and/or misspelled words, most of which can easily be corrected using spell-check and by rereading one's post before hitting "Send."

    I simply don't think it's too much to ask.

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    "I simply don't think it's too much to ask"

    No I suppose not Roth.

    I didn't intend to accuse you of anything my friend. I hope you understood that.

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    As everyone knows I obsess a bit about titles, and will post and "Edit" message.
    Usually only in threads by New-ish members, generally with 20 to 100 posts just to let them know about #9.
    I know I'm far from perfect, but I try.

    As for correcting grammar or punctuation in a Member's post, only occasionally will I change a letter or fix a dlyseixc spelling error.
    And then, only when it's is something that leaps off the page.


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    But if we spell everything right and capitalize there won't be anything for the mods to do and Lawrence will get so bored.

    I know what I need, smoke, I can't recall the last time I tasted it....Gandalf in the mines of Moria.

    "we shall have to share pipes, as good friends must at a pinch'....'I keep a treasure or two near my skin, as precious as rings to me. Here's one: my old wooden pipe. And here's another an unused one...He held up a small pipe with a wide flattened bowl, and handed it to Gimli. 'Does that settle the score between us', said Merry. 'Most noble hobbit, it leaves me deep in your debt."
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    I strive to spell and be as grammatically as possible when I'm on the laptop. Using that and Firefox, misspelled words are underlined in red, making for an easy correction (right click and chose the proper spelling).

    However, at times I'm replying via my phone. For some reason, it chooses to self-correct spelling and is often wrong. That drives me nuts but Verizon says it cannot be turned off without a complete reset of my phone (this came in an update last year). So, if someone finds gross errors on my posts, I'm not intentionally being disrespectful.

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    This may not be my place to bring this up, so sorry if I'm stepping on the mod's toes, but when I see too much of this going on, it starts to bug me

    For reals?
    I hope the spwelling Nazis don't start following me around.
    Lets leave the moderation up to the "MoDs". I'm sure they will handle the issue with far more tact and in private if needed.
    If you are that annoyed over type O0000H's send some one a PM or better yet get the meds updated so pPettY little things in life won't bother you so much i think most people try to be succinct but we all need to remember that people come from a lot of different back grounds and not every one is is a whiz bang internet expert with a keyboard.

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    LMAO

    +1 duckfat

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    duckfat (which forum spellcheck keeps auto correcting) for President! Not everyone has the same background or skills in the worlds of spelling and grammar, nor have grammar conventions remained static over the span of generations represented in this group (I can't BELIEVE the MLA changed the comma + "and" convention, I had that shiznitz DOWN in 8th grade through my first 3 articles).

    Leave real problems to the Moderators and leave the rest alone as it comes off as unadulterated snobbery. A man who is uneducated in grammar, yet good at heart is far better to associate with than a man with 7 degrees but a heart as black as coal.
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    AHHHH!!!! Grammar Police!

    JJ. Some of us are lazy and some us just don't know how to spell. I for one take the lazy card sometimes but also find it hard to read run-on posts or bad spelling. Most of the time I don't bother with those posts for those reasons.

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  30. undecagon

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    Well to be fair, I am a tactless snob, among many other much worse qualifiers! However, in this post, I was just trying to help people out.

    Oh cool, I didn't know this was a rule. I'll try to work on that some.
    Oh yea, I forgot about that. I'll see if I can fix some more mistakes.
    Oh really? Didn't know that was a rule. I'll keep it in mind, but make no promises.

    Cool, thanks guys!

    --OUT

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    I'm married to a proof reader. Some publishers send manuscripts through a series of proof reading professionals, to weed out mistakes. However, even with that, errors get through to publication. To keep peace in the family, my spelling and grammar have become much better over the years. But, I am more tolerant of errors online, and overlook some mistakes.

    I recall my English professor saying the English language is in constant evolution, and changes over time. I find some of it difficult to swallow, but we are not novelists here. I would not write, or accept "hw r u 2 day" in a thread, but an honest fat-finger is OK with me.

    And to all a good night.
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    My 8th Grade English teacher, who had a horrible temper always told us:
    "Dogs go mad, people get angry". It looked the same to us....

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    thanksforpointingthisout.seeiusedaperoid!anda! Sorry, I couldn't help myself.

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    Glad to see that there are those who agree with the fact that this shouldn't be handled but members.

    [quote]A man who is uneducated in grammar, yet good at heart is far better to associate with than a man with 7 degrees...[quote]

    So true.

    i thought i was the only one bothered by this thread. my faith in the members on here has risen back up and is even stronger. You guys are the best.

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    Hopefully we members can pay a bit more attention and to that end, this thread served it's purpose.

    I am sure Kevin and the moderators appreciate this as well.

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    Al, why wouldn't it be "People go angry"?

    And when are we meeting in Winchester again?

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    Hopefully we members can pay a bit more attention and to that end, this thread served it's purpose.

    Agreed everyone got it out and we should all have a good understanding of each other.

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    I am not the best of proofreaders. Sometimes it takes me 3 or 4 times through to catch all the mistakes even when it's a short post. That said, I respect the rules here and have enough personal pride that I caught and corrected 2 errors in recent posts quite a bit after they were made.

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    Everyone makes mistakes, and some will slip through, even with the best intentions in the world. These things happen, and are no big deal.

    But

    Still, we've all seen posts with no caps, one sentence that's a five line paragraph, and/or misspelled words, most of which can easily be corrected using spell-check and by rereading one's post before hitting "Send."

    I simply don't think it's too much to ask.

    I completely agree with roth on this. If someone can't be bothered to at least attempt to use punctuation and capitalization, I can't be bothered to read their post.

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    I have been in some sort of printing for more than 40 yrs. Never could spell or type and I am not permitted to proofreed a business card. How or what do I use to spell check these posts? Use a different browser? Write it in word & copy/paste it in here?
    BTW, when I first started in here, I screwed up a couple of times & Judd emailed me privatly to help me correct my bad doings. In a very nice way.
    Had some AH in another group try & do that but not privately, threatening to ban me, so I gave him enough ammo to do so. Now the site emails me & wonders where I am. Sold my Keltec too.

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    At first read my thoughts are "pound sand". Upon further thought..."get over it".
    I hope I've been able to help in some small way.

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    From what I can gather, I don't find anyone deliberately trying to type crudely. Many of us type quickly as if we are talking to someone across the table.

    I agree that some effort should be used in punctuation, etc, but if it is written so poorly, lets let the moderators handle it.

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    Everyone makes mistakes, and some will slip through, even with the best intentions in the world. These things happen, and are no big deal.

    But
    Still, we've all seen posts with no caps, one sentence that's a five line paragraph, and/or misspelled words, most of which can easily be corrected using spell-check and by rereading one's post before hitting "Send."
    I simply don't think it's too much to ask.

    I completely agree with roth on this. If someone can't be bothered to at least attempt to use punctuation and capitalization, I can't be bothered to read their post.

    +1 Jud and rothnh

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    I'm difinately not a computer techie. Somehow spell check no longer exists on my computer, not just on this forum but even in my outlook email account. When I'm in doubt I use google.com and enter the word I'm not sure of. Google helps, but I'm sure I misspell words.

    I've enen noticed a couple of my posts looked as if Archie Bunker had applied his linquistic twist to my post.

    My mistakes that end up printed, hopefully will be taken without offense.

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    Sometimes spacing can be an issue

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    Sometimes spacing can be an issue

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    Sometimes spacing can be an issue

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    LOL, priceless, Craig! Thanks

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    just tried Chrome & it spell checks. guess I will convert. Doesn't catch caps though.

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    "JJ. Some of us are lazy and some us just don't know how to spell."

    Do you mean me? Or is there another "JJ"?

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