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    ayhr

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    Good dya everyone, how have you been lately?

    Im looking into buying one straight pipe,im not sure should i go with peterson or savinelli? I have a bent kilarney from peterson it smokes great also Churchwarden from savinelli smokes great, but now ive heard that the briar used in savinelli is a better quality.

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    It’s personal preference really, I think their factory made pipes of comparable price points are probably about the same quality. Just go with whichever brand/pipe looks the best for your personal taste. I prefer Peterson, but I don’t think they’re really any better than similar Sav’s. I just happen to like the way they look a whole lot more.

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    Just personal preference I think. Both good pipes.

    For what it's worth I've had better drilling on my Savs, particularly on the bent styles, but I have and enjoy both equally.

    Style-wise, you have to like the chunky Pete thing and some people don't like that or the rustication either, whereas the styling on the Savs is a different look altogether, but ... like I said, it's mostly a preference thing.

    I've got 4-5 of each and I don't have a preference either way. At least not so much that I didn't buy 4-5 of each and I smoke them all happily enough.

    As to briar quality? I can't tell from smoking them. I will say that under the Pete rustication there might lurk the ugliest piece of briar the world has ever seen and you wouldn't know the difference, but as a smoking pipe, meh - they both are perfectly fine for me.

    Hope that helps a little.

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    I must assume higher grade Petersons are pretty good, If I had less money I'd probably opt for Savinelli but again there is this filter issue, majority of savinellis come with 6mm

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    I've heard more complaints about quality control with Petersons. A few members just don't like Savinelli's, but prefer higher end pipes. Savinelli seems a surer bet, but I love my Petes too, as I've been lucky with quality, and my Savs have all been consistently successful. In my experience, you'll be fine with either.

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    I've had bad experiences with Peterson so my choice would be Savinelli. I think their all around better smokers.

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    I've had bad experiences with Peterson so my choice would be Savinelli. I think their all around better smokers.

    Thats what ive heard, but some petes look better, i think ill go with one each

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    I'm the outlier. I can't stand Savinelli. I've tried. I've owned probably around 40 of them. I've had more problems than I care to illustrate.

    I definitely prefer Petersons. I've owned or still own around 70 of them. I've had exactly one dud. I used the drill bit on my reamer to adjust the draft. It's a great smoker.

    These type of threads always concern me, because they are subjective.

    Why not start a thread with, "I have a blind date tonight, what do I do if she's a brunette vs a blond or a redhead?" Personally, I've had good luck and bad luck with all three.

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    I suppose it does bear mentioning that Peterson seems to have some QC issues, as others have mentioned. I’ve experienced them myself, but still love my Peterson pipes. As I write this I’m smoking my Flame Grain 87 that gurgled like a sumbitch when I first got it. I’ve learned more about pipe smoking since then, I’m currently an hour into a bowl of Irish Flake with zero issues. So take everything with a grain of salt. Learning better drying/packing/cadence can help alleviate a lot of issues that might present themselves. I don’t own nor have I smoked a Savinelli, so I might not be the best person to weigh in on this subject. But I think you’ll be happy with either choice. Have fun buying some more pipes, it’s always exciting to get a new one in the mail!

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    No question for me................Savinelli

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    Savinelli. I like Petersons' appearance but I had quality issues with their pipes. Despite that, I'm still checking their pipes, they are just beautiful.

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    Concur that it's all personal preference. I've never had a Pete, but not because I have anything against them. Just never got onto the habit.

    Savs on the other hand, I'm the almost exact opposite of ash. I've had 40-50 over the years, from Oscar to Autograph, & have never had a bad one, or even marginal. For my coins they're stellar, & I freely admit a bias in their favor.

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    Thats what ive heard, but some petes look better, i think ill go with one each[i][u]

    I love your "Bipartisan" thinking.

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    Just to even things out a might and muddy up the OP's decision-making process, I've only owned a couple of Savinelli's but 1/4 of my pipe collection is comprised of Petes. Haven't had a problem with any of them. I prefer the design aesthetic of Peterson, however, with the exception of the Savinelli 320's.

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    I'm more a Pete fan than Savinelli, but I do really like some of Savinelli's pipes. There are a few chunkier shapes, most designated KS which would please a Peterson smoker. I've had no major issues with Peterson quality. I'll sing their praises all day every day. But if you were to ask me the best Balkan/English blend smokers I own, I'll tell you my Savinelli 320 KS's every time. Between the two, my advise would be to purchase the pipe that is most appealing to you.

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    That's it exactly, Anthony. I think the best bet is to pick the pipe that is most visually appealing.

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    peterson all the way. just like and enjoy peterson pipes. there are some issues, nothing major, and nothing that i can't work around.

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    Petes with their fat legs, and Savs with their sleek and sexy just seem like two polar opposites to be comparing, like deciding between a Dodge or a Vespa. You're going to hear those that like sleek. classic shapes tell you their favorites, and those who don't mind smoking broken pipes tell you to buy Petes. JK

    Buy what you like. Otherwise, you are just stirring the pot, but I think that was what you were doing to begin with, right?

    Me? I say buy a real pipe, and leave these cheap pieces of crap alone.

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    I find Perterson's to be undervalued these days as compared to 5-6 years ago. I just purchased this Royal Peterson for well under 100$ yesterday. Pretty good value.

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    I'm late to the party, but ...

    Thats what ive heard, but some petes look better, i think ill go with one each

    Excellent choice.

    I like 'em both myself.

    I love your "Bipartisan" thinking.

    Aaaand the thread gets political.

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    If you are going to purchase a Pete, make sure you ask the retailer to go over with with a fine tooth comb. Any retailer who is any good will check it for you.
    My first pipe was a Savinelli and I have always been thankful for that fact. It is a great smoking pipe and it gave me a baseline for all future purchases. When I got a bad pipe I knew it as I could compare it to the Savinelli.
    My first Savinelli was a Linea Pui 5 Apple shaped. My first and only Pete was a bent with a p-lip and it was a piece of crap. I purchased the Pete not long after my Savinelli and the difference in smoking quality was very evident.
    Another pipe brand you might want to check is the lower end Winslow range of pipes. I hear nothing but great things about them. I used to own a number of Winslow hand made high grades and people say that the lower end lines smoke as nicely.

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    @Folanator, Congrats on this one, in my opinion, You did very well with this one,looks like more than a great value

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    Holy hell that is a beauty! I love their natural stain, and Birdseye galore!

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    @cigrmaster, I can confirm, I have a Winsløw Crown 200 straight apple shape and this fine little pipe smokes like a dream.

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    I don't know ... I can't really decide, I like both my Savinelis and my Petersons. At the end of the day, if I did have to choose, I would go with Peterson simply because I like their shapes better, and I am fool for the silver band; but that doesn't make savineli a worse brand. So yeah .. at the end of the day preference.

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    Of all the Savinelli's that I have owned (8), only one wouldn't easily pass a pipe cleaner and that was an Oom Paul. I only have 3 Savinelli's left in my collection.

    I only have two Pete's in my collection now but only the oldest one - an Kapp-Royal - passes a pipe cleaner. A new Peterson Fermoy bulldog doesn't even come close to taking the pipe cleaner. That being said, I haven't had any issues with it gurgling either. I looked at the Peterson's on display at my local B&M and the drilling was consistently high in them.

    So, basically, I'm not helping with this question. I don't own 30 or 40 of each and the ones I do have I smoke good. Savinelli and Peterson both make good pipes for reasonable money.

    I am glad we have a good admin and responsible moderators.

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    Thanks. I like Pete's styling. Not a huge fan of the p-lip in general. Doesn't seem to affect the smoke much and it makes it hard to pass a cleaner mid smoke if it's a wet smoker.

    I like my good Petes better than my good Savs. Savs are consistent. There are some Petersons that are absolute gurgling dogs.

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    No question, a good old American made Kaywoodie. Haha.

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    I've never understood the drive to have pipes pass the "pipe cleaner test. My wetter pipes are not Peterson pipes, but have been smoking pipes for in excess of 40 years and, if I find a pipe needs some swabbing before I'm done with it, I simply remove the stem and clean it. Have never had an adverse outcome from doing that.

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    For the record, I can't remember if I have ever inserted a pipe cleaner into a pipe as I was smoking it. I just don't like taking a hot pipe apart immediately after smoking it to swab out the airway and the stem. It's just easier to insert the pipe cleaner after smoking to remove any moisture.

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    I'd suggest against removing the stem while smoking or at least do ensure the stem tenon is not tiny one and the shank has thick walls.

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    The only time I'd advise not to remove a stem while a pipe is still warm is if the stem still seems tight to twist. Forcing stems whatever the temperature of the pipe is a bad idea and when difficulties can occur, which would be true even for a cool pipe. I have a few pipes like that and, whenever I wish to remove its stem, I first use the freezer treatment.

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    Have both, love both. I'd give the slight edge to Savinelli if you put a gun to my head. More shape variety and just a more solid feel in the hand. Keeping in mind that I am a total n00b and have next to no idea what the hell I am talking about when it comes to anything at all

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    Few generalities hold up in pipe smoking, but unless you have an aversion -- reasoned or emotional -- I'd own at least one of each Savinelli and Peterson -- whatever else you choose over time. If you don't like either one, then never again. I have a number of each, bought over years, always new, and I'm well pleased.

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    Irish,

    I've never understood the drive to have pipes pass the "pipe cleaner test. My wetter pipes are not Peterson pipes, but have been smoking pipes for in excess of 40 years and, if I find a pipe needs some swabbing before I'm done with it, I simply remove the stem and clean it. Have never had an adverse outcome from doing that.

    Taking off a stem to swab your pipe is exactly why you would want a pipe cleaner to reach the bottom of your pipe. Taking off a stem that is hot is a dangerous game you are playing. I snapped a stem once early on because I wanted to clean it with a pipe cleaner. Never did that again and never bought another pipe that wouldn't pass a cleaner.

    daniel, glad to hear you love your Winslow, never heard anyone say they were disappointed in theirs.

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    No question, a good old American made Kaywoodie. Haha.

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    Have had fun with both. Have had problems with both.

    Ford/Chevy (afaic).

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    My one Savinelli is the pipe I've owned the longest. My one Peterson was sold after about 2 years of ownership. Although, it might not have had anything to do with the actual quality of the pipe. It was a Aran bulldog gifted to me that I used for English blends back when the Frog Morton's were readily available. I don't smoke English blends anymore and I never cared for the bulldog shape, so off to a better home it went.

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    The first three pipes I bought (first pipe was a gift Grabow I still have) were a Pete 'zippo' 03, a Stanwell bent dublin, and a Sav Autograph prince. Those three pipes all smoked amazingly well. After that, it was all about aesthetics. each brand has shapes I love. Buy all the pipes! Life is short. lol

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    I think Savs are more consistent in their engineering and smoking qualities. Many newer Petes seem to be hit or miss

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    Although I'm fairly certain the OP has already made his purchase/decision, I'll just add my two cents...

    I think it's an entirely aesthetic choice and the aesthetics couldn't be further from one another. I will say that any production facility producing products in the thousands, year over year, are bound to have some problems. As has been mentioned, just have the retailer/yourself look over the pipe before any purchases to minimize risk.

    You didn't ask, but I'll just throw out there that Briarworks makes a fantastic pipe in the same price point. Once again, different aesthetic

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    That is a beauty folanator!

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    I think it's just a matter of preference. I own several of each, definitely more Petersons than Savinelli. I think that they are both excellent pipes. I would say that my favorite pipes are either Chararan's or Claudio Cavicchi.

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