The Breath Method as Described by Muttonchop Piper

[didimauw]

Do you use enough force to push smoke out of the bowl ?

When I clench, I just breathe through my nose. The rest comes naturally.

 

[LudwigB88]

When I clench, I just breathe through my nose. The rest comes naturally.

But to clarify, you are pushing smoke out through the stem ? That was my understanding of Mutton’s description.

 

[Chasing Embers]

Do you use enough force to push smoke out of the bowl ?

Only enough to see a faint wisp, and only after 4 or 5 breaths of continuous drawing.

 

[LudwigB88]

Only enough to see a faint wisp, and only after 4 or 5 breaths of continuous drawing.

Only after 4 or 5 breaths do you actually blow smoke out of opened mouth, right ? But in between, you ARE breathing out through the stem, no ? My understanding was to be breathing in through the nose, followed by a slight breath in through the closed mouth. Then exhale lightly through stem (again with mouth closed) followed by or together with full exhale through the nose. Then every three or four cycles actually open mouth and puff out smoke.

 

[LudwigB88]

Only enough to see a faint wisp, and only after 4 or 5 breaths of continuous drawing.

I’ll rewatch his video. But thank you very much.

 

[Chasing Embers]

Only after 4 or 5 breaths do you actually blow smoke out of opened mouth, right ?

I exhale it out of my nose unless talking.

ARE breathing out through the stem

No, only using an ebb and flow of the vacuum and air pressure I'm my mouth as you would fluid through a straw.
My breath never draws nor pushes the smoke until retrohaling.

 

[Chasing Embers]

I’ll rewatch his video. But thank you very much.

Watch Alan Kerslake's video. Much more informative.

 

[LeafErikson]

I’ll rewatch his video. But thank you very much.

I watched his video some time ago and it really looked like he was freight training the pipe.

 

[Chasing Embers]

I watched his video some time ago and it really looked like he was freight training the pipe.

That's why I suggest Alan's videos.

 

[LudwigB88]

That's why I suggest Alan's videos.

I’m watching Muttnchop final “beat dead horse” video where he clarifies some of this.

 

[LudwigB88]

That's why I suggest Alan's videos.

Who is Alan ? Is he Muttnchop piper ?

 

[LudwigB88]

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That's why I suggest Alan's videos.

I found it on Google. Thanks!

 

[Chasing Embers]

Who is Alan ? Is he Muttnchop piper ?

Nah, much more pleasant fellow. I'd never suggest Muttnchop.

 

[LeafErikson]

Nah, much more pleasant fellow. I'd never suggest Muttnchop.

I really enjoyed his video. Thanks for sharing.

 

[LudwigB88]

The problem with Muttonchop's video, to me, is that he's pushing smoke out through the pipe with far too much regularity. When I smoke, I guess you could call it breath smoking, but basically I'm just keeping the pipe in my mouth and breathing through my nose, while slowly pulling through the stem of the pipe. Every three or four breaths I will either push a tiny amount of smoke back out the pipe, or retrohale.

I don't know how you can push smoke out with every breath and not overheat.

That’s EXACTLY what I thought. He claims only drawing in overheats the bowl, and that pushing smoke back out the pipe actually COOLS the pipe. I’m not sure that’s correct. Even he says it “sort of cools the pipe.” He also doesn’t make it clear whether the “mouthwash” technique of using your mouth to draw in/out on stem should be synchronized with your nose breathing. Or just in general whether it is up to each individual to decide how/whether to let mouth and nose work independently.

 

[LudwigB88]

The problem with Muttonchop's video, to me, is that he's pushing smoke out through the pipe with far too much regularity. When I smoke, I guess you could call it breath smoking, but basically I'm just keeping the pipe in my mouth and breathing through my nose, while slowly pulling through the stem of the pipe. Every three or four breaths I will either push a tiny amount of smoke back out the pipe, or retrohale.

I don't know how you can push smoke out with every breath and not overheat.

If you are pulling smoke through the stem every breath, but only releasing smoke every 3 or 4 breaths, where is all that smoke going before you release it ? Isn’t your mouth just holding a bunch of smoke for a long time ?

 

[LudwigB88]

Only after 4 or 5 breaths do you actually blow smoke out of opened mouth, right ? But in between, you ARE breathing out through the stem, no ? My understanding was to be breathing in through the nose, followed by a slight breath in through the closed mouth. Then exhale lightly through stem (again with mouth closed) followed by or together with full exhale through the nose. Then every three or four cycles actually open mouth and puff out smoke.

THAT’S EXACTLY what my understanding was. If you are not exhaling through the stem with each breath, you are going to be building up an awful lot of smoke. Muttnchop may make a mistake in one of his videos, but he suggests NOT breathing out through mouth/stem only as a way to reignite ember (that is, to only breathe in for a few breaths). Again, I don’t see how you can do that without releasing smoke somewhere. I think he meant to say breathe in AND out. But if you simply want to cool the pipe, only breathe OUT. THAT is possible, since you are taking air in through your nose and can then simply blow it out through the stem only or better in conjunction with breathing out through your nose. I guess all of this is an individual thing.

 

[Chasing Embers]

He claims only drawing in overheats the bowl, and that pushing smoke back out the pipe actually COOLS the pipe

I'm guessing he has no idea how a bellows works.

 

[Chasing Embers]

If you are pulling smoke through the stem every breath

It's a continuous uninterrupted draw for a few breaths.

Isn’t your mouth just holding a bunch of smoke for a long time ?

Exactly

 

[LudwigB88]

Only after 4 or 5 breaths do you actually blow smoke out of opened mouth, right ? But in between, you ARE breathing out through the stem, no ? My understanding was to be breathing in through the nose, followed by a slight breath in through the closed mouth. Then exhale lightly through stem (again with mouth closed) followed by or together with full exhale through the nose. Then every three or four cycles actually open mouth and puff out smoke.

THAT’S EXACTLY what my understanding was. If you are not exhaling through the stem with each breath, you are going to be building up an awful lot of smoke. Muttnchop may make a mistake in one of his videos, but he suggests NOT breathing out through mouth/stem only as a way to reignite ember (that is, to only breathe in for a few breaths). Again, I don’t see how you can do that without releasing smoke somewhere. I think he meant to say breathe in AND out. But if you simply want to cool the pipe, only breathe OUT. THAT is possible, since you are taking air in through your nose and can then simply blow it out through the stem only or better in conjunction with breathing out through your nose. I guess all of this is an individual thing.

The problem with Muttonchop's video, to me, is that he's pushing smoke out through the pipe with far too much regularity. When I smoke, I guess you could call it breath smoking, but basically I'm just keeping the pipe in my mouth and breathing through my nose, while slowly pulling through the stem of the pipe. Every three or four breaths I will either push a tiny amount of smoke back out the pipe, or retrohale.

I don't know how you can push smoke out with every breath and not overheat.

You don’t say when you are actually blowing smoke out into the air. If every 3 or 4 breaths you are pushing smoke back out the pipe OR retrohaling, when are you actually blowing smoke out of your mouth, which is the most basic aspect of pipe smoking I thought.