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Lifer
Nov 26, 2018
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I believe an international treaty has put a foot down on whale hunting. Unless it's for Japanese science study where they test the fine palate of Japanese people, or Nordic, and Inuit heritage of annual whale hunting. Of course, the rare and beautiful white sperm whale was last seen around Oceania, I believe. That would make ton of rare albino sperm whale sushi which would be frowned up on. But if you are looking for a rare smoking pipe, contact number of sellers and let the word out. They will call you when they have their hands on 'em.
 
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Servant King

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Nov 27, 2020
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What do you think about when your find yourself in this situation?
I think about my bank account. I picture it being like Tuco at the end of The Good The Bad and the Ugly, head in noose, standing precariously on a grave marker with tied hands, begging for mercy, the mercy of not being cripplingly drained of its pecuniary lifeblood for a small, wooden object that will lose much of it's value the moment it is used.

The noose is severed by a distant gunshot as I click off the listing. The bank account collapses on the ground in a heap, not on a pile of gold coins as in the 1966 spaghetti western classic (an amusing label for a genre whose constituents were often filmed in Spain), but on the bulk tobacco I've stocked up on in lieu of blowing X amount of dollars on a pipe.

Having TAD is no picnic, but I'm thankful every time I browse that I don't also have its evil twin brother to contend with.

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LeafErikson

Lifer
Dec 7, 2021
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Oregon
I am not super into collecting nice pipes so I don’t think I’d have a white whale. Not a minimalist or anything I just don’t want 50 pipes laying around my house. Anywhere from 10-15 pipes is enough for me.
 
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AroEnglish

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Jan 7, 2020
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I am not super into collecting nice pipes so I don’t think I’d have a white whale. Not a minimalist or anything I just don’t want 50 pipes laying around my house. Anywhere from 10-15 pipes is enough for me.
Yeah I’m with you. I honestly can’t believe I am at 40 pipes. I thought 10 would be plenty but now here I am. I don’t want to go back down to 10 but definitely don’t want to stay at 40.
 
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woodsroad

Lifer
Oct 10, 2013
13,215
23,051
SE PA USA
We all have that one pipe that we dream of having the opportunity to acquire, let alone actually acquiring it. What do you think about when your find yourself in this situation?

I’m guessing most of us will consider the condition but how picky will you be over grain, shaping, stem bend, etc.?

And what about price? Do you consider its original list price in what you are going to pay for it or is it sky’s the limit? How do you determine the number that you’re willing to pay for it?

I have no such desires.

While I do collect several makers, I find that more enjoyable to appreciate each specimen that finds it’s way to me.

The only pipemaker that I wish I owned one of is Sylvia Santos. Woulashouldacoulda.
I still greatly enjoy seeing her new work on FB.
 
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AroEnglish

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Jan 7, 2020
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I have no such desires.

While I do collect several makers, I find that more enjoyable to appreciate each specimen that finds it’s way to me.

The only pipemaker that I wish I owned one of is Sylvia Santos. Woulashouldacoulda.
I still greatly enjoy seeing her new work on FB.
I couldn’t find anything about Sylvia Santos but there is a Sabina Santos I found. Is that who you’re referring to?
 
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bluegrassbrian

Your Mom's Favorite Pipe Smoker
Aug 27, 2016
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And therein lies the conflict. We want this "thing', but we want an exceptional example of this "thing", but we're afraid that if we don't go after the available, though compromised, "thing" we'll miss out. FOMO is murder.

The honest answer to FOMO is, there will ALWAYS be something else. It may not be another example of that "thing", but it may be something even better, likely it WILL be.

There are a couple of white whales, but I'm at that point in collecting where I don't really care whether or not I ever acquire them. Maybe it's the result of having gone through tossing out, donating, or gifting away hundreds of "treasures" as part of this move that leaves me less desirous of "stuff".

But even before all of that, I had limits, certainly budgetary limits, on what ANY pipe is worth to me, so I was often outbid, though I did make my competition pay, and have ZERO regrets. These days I can satisfy myself with the images of a white whale. I don't need to own it.

Of course, some people would point out, I own some exceedingly fine and rare pipes. You betcha. But I bought all of them within my very tight budget. Some of it was patience, some of it was luck, a lot of it was knowledge - I knew what I was looking at when others didn't, and some of it was the kindness of friends and strangers, who offered me something special at a reduced price because I had done them a service in the past and this was their way of saying thank you.

With white whales, if the result isn't uncomplicated satisfaction, it wasn't worth it.
I've done a lot of window shopping in the past few days and I might have gained some valuable new perspective along the lines of the first couple stanzas.

There's a LOT of very nice pipes out there. A world filled with more artisans doing high level work than ever before..
But the more I look, the less valuable they seem to me. There's a limit to how much I'll spend, but it's not purely a financial decision. The limit is my opinion on a great pipes worth, thus its value. For me it's the $450-$500 range.

So, I think, for a pipe to truly make me spend more than that - it would have to be a white whale. Haven't encountered one yet. (There's a couple out there $12-1600 that have given me pause, but couldn't do it).
 

LeafErikson

Lifer
Dec 7, 2021
2,467
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Oregon
Yeah I’m with you. I honestly can’t believe I am at 40 pipes. I thought 10 would be plenty but now here I am. I don’t want to go back down to 10 but definitely don’t want to stay at 40.
Just cull it down to 30 or so and use the proceed for more tobacco. It’ll feel good. If there are any pipes on the fence don’t get rid of them just yet. You don’t want any regrets.
 
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AroEnglish

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Just cull it down to 30 or so and use the proceed for more tobacco. It’ll feel good. If there are any pipes on the fence don’t get rid of them just yet. You don’t want any regrets.
Yeah I keep a pretty detailed spreadsheet and a lot of the pipes I own are on the chopping block.
 

ssjones

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May 11, 2011
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Late in on this one.
Around 2012, I started this "Holy Grail" list of Makers and Shape numbers. I think it was originally 10, but grew to what you see below. By 2015, I had found them all.

Some, several times over. I always sought the best example. Then, when I had the best example, I didn't want to damage the condition, so they went unused. After a few years, I thought that makes no sense. So, I sold some of my more valuable shapes, and kept the shapes that weren't perfect. I can enjoy them guilt-free.

Some shapes that I sought, I found just weren't to my liking. I even added a few Italian pipes (GASP!)

Now, I've pared down my collection considerably, but enjoy the ones I own. I still have multiples of certain shapes (9438, 9242, Ashford, Regent).

I loved the search, and was a little disappointed when it was completed. I need goals it appears!

MakerShape #
SasieniAshford
SasieniRegent
GBD9242
GBD9438
Comoys499
Comoys498
Comoys256
Comoy's284
Comoy's440
Comoy's283
DunhillCK
Dunhill Birth Year ('61)120
Peterson9BC
Peterson999
Castello65
Castello55
Ashton Rhodesian(Taylor)Taylor
Kaywoodie5138B
CharatanCountryman
 

Seeleybc1

Starting to Get Obsessed
Dec 29, 2022
180
1,020
Palmer AK
Oh man, no I absolutely understand the “white Whale” concept!
I can relate it to knives and firearms big time. It’s a lifelong quest that may never be totally realized or achieved. Super fun!
Regarding pipes, I’ve had a few surprise me in the way I was drawn to them, sometimes lesser expensive pipes. One of my favorites that I’ll never part with and value a tremendous amount more than I payed for it is a Barling 4165. Everything about that pipe is correct to me.
I dont really have any big name or big money pipes in mind, although I’ve been keeping my eyes peeled for a bent Ashton that has all the right stuff going on
 
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