Young Pipe Smoker - Parents?

[ssjones]

Sounds like a good outcome for the moment. If you are living at home and in his house, you do have the obligation of sharing. I thought from your earlier post, that you were away at college, which why I suggested just not sharing till you completed/graduated and got out on your own. But, in his house, you have to be wide open. My opinion as a dad.

 

[ozziepiper]

My Dad doesn't know that I've smoked anything before, so it would come as a bit of a shock. I just finished my first semester so I was home for holidays but during that time I decided to have a year off to work and do other stuff so I will be living at home again for the next year or so. That's why I decided not to hide it. Before I ordered my pipes I did tell my 17 year old brother, who had guessed I'd smoked a cigar before. He was quite skeptical about the whole idea, naturally. About a week later I was just talking to him about it again and realised he knew a lot about the different tobaccos, etc. Turns out he'd been reading online and realised that pipes are infact different to cigarettes. Now he's converted and wants to try a pipe once he's 18. He's not interested in doing it underage though.

 

[grouchy]

dad, i love the pipe and hope you can accept that. i will not smoke in the house out of respect for you and mom and will not smoke in the house but outside.

time has a way of working things out.

in a hundred years will all be forgotten and wont matter.

 

[smoker]

I see light at the end of your path young ozziepiper. Them new pipes you have as has already been mentioned ask your dad to have a smoke with you.

 

[ozziepiper]

I really would love to enjoy a pipe with Dad but on the other hand I don't. As awesome as it would be, I'd feel guilty about introducing him back to tobacco. It took him years to quit cigarettes and I know he would never use any form of tobacco again, even pipes. I know pipes are different to cigarettes but I just wouldn't feel comfortable asking him to use any tobacco product after all the years of effort he put in. It's funny, normally it's the parent discouraging their kids from smoking, but it looks like now I'm the son telling the parent. He grew up with a pipe smoking father so I guess he'd talk to him about me, I just hope that he comes to realise the differences between cigs and pipes. I don't think he's really concerned about the health risks, mostly just addiction.

 

[schmitzbitz]

Something that you may want to file away in the back of your head for the inevitable conversation in regards to your grandfathers pipe-smoking vis-a-vie your pipe smoking: In your grandfathers day, pipes were used as a nicotine delivery system first and foremost, and often the pipers of old would be seen with a smoldering briar in their face from dawn to dusk. In this day and age, pipe-smoking is less of a habit, and more of a hobby. I liken the difference between a drunk and a connoisseur of fine wine...both are imbibing in alcohol consumption, but one is doing so for the enjoyment of the flavours (and likely won't be partaking daily), whilst the other is simply looking for a fix.

 

[grouchy]

aha! now now we are getting somewhere :wink:

like father like son. that's the way it works.

five years to quit. quite understandable.

tobacco companys, products to quit, anti smoking campains, etc., have spend billions of dollars hiring phycologists and their collegues, advertising agencies, etc.. that we want and need their products and cant get along with out. there is not succeeding. failure imminente. insults to the intellagence.

night is day and day is night. i can i can't. BULL SHIT. been around breeding ranches, cattle and horses.

hung like a bull, pencil dick better discription. hung like a horse, now THAT is a compliment ::

most ex cigaretts smokers, are very adament to quit or never start. non smokers give it far less thought.

your fathers intentions and your 'but and what if's' is just another like father like son attribute. in short love.

that bond is unconditional no matter what to anything.

casey anthony, guilty or not, nothing changes. with all her parents were put through, they were and are still there.
you dont have to make a point of deliberatly starting the i want to smoke admission, guilt.

in evey day conversation, just ask if thinks you are. if he gives you good or negative type feed back, then you know he has already accepted. you will have a greater peace with that than guilt secrets. he already knows, after all, he's your father. with uncomfortable revelations of that his son is growing up and shepparding becomming less and less needed.

 

[bigvan]

Grouchy, this is just my opinion but perhaps you could tighten up your post a bit. I wasn't quite sure of the point you were trying to make and personally I could do without the vulgarities, please.

 

[wolfscout]

Never forget that parents have that instinctive knowledge. He probably already knows you full well intend to smoke those pipes.

Deception, even small and insignificant, is easily seen and demeaning. Just be a man and state it.

 

[ozziepiper]

Ok guys well looks like I finally have an end to the story so I thought I might share it with you.
I talked with my Dad about me wanting to smoke a pipe and it did not go well at all. Firstly, despite his father being a daily pipe smoker for over 15 years, he refused to believe that pipes are not meant to be inhaled. He thought that pipes were in every way the same as cigarettes. After talking with him for well over an hour and showing him a few things on the internet, I finally managed to convince him that pipes and cigars are not meant to be inhaled.
He still does not believe that pipes are less addictive than cigarettes if not inhaled. He says that even if I don't inhale, after a while I will be fully addicted and want to inhale for the nicotine hit. He also thinks it's garbage that people smoke pipes for taste, rather than just for a nicotine hit. He said "oh yeah, I tried menthol cigarettes which had a bit of a different taste, but people don't really smoke for taste". Of course you guys know that pipe smoke is all about taste.
He told me it's a stupid idea, he can't believe that I would even consider it, and that he is absolutely not allowing me to do it and he'll burn my pipes if I ever buy tobacco. Looks like a lot of you hoped he'd react a bit differently than he did. He thinks that everything I know about pipes is just propaganda from a few pipe smokers who go online and make up lies to justify their addiction. Since I'm living at home again permanently, looks like I won't be smoking a pipe for at least 3 years and even when I do start, I'll be well into my 20's and still have to do it in private. Can't believe I turn 20 next month and I can't even make an informed decision to do something that is 100% legal. This is the first thing that I've ever really disagreed with my Dad about in a big way.

 

[philip]

Well, Ozzie, in another 40 years you will think twenty is nothing. Just be glad you are young and don't worry about it. You have lots of time left to to make what you will of your life. There may be more important things to spend your energy on. Happy Birthday next month.

 

[jchaplick]

Same boat, moved to college, smoke pipes, go home, dont smoke pipes. If i do, i usually go for a walk or a drive, my parents know, but dont talk about it, i like it, and it isnt crack, so i guess its ok

 

[nsfisher]

my doctor once told me that he can tell if a patient has had a smoke within 2 days!!!! to a non-smoker, a smoker just puts off an unmistakable aroma. A non-smoking parent can tell if u have had a smoke within hours regardless of how well u try to mask it. Sorry to say mate, but ur dad already suspects!!!!!

 

[jerome]

I exactly know what you mean. My parents were mostly shocked but they are slowly just forgetting to talk about it or mention it. My dad and mom think it is like cigarette smoking too, but I think it is more like a hobby. Once you move out, you will be able to do what you want without your parents being able to approve or disapprove. Good luck!

-Justin

 

[kamikazesasquatch]

I haven't finished the thread yet so this may have already been mentioned but I have bad enough ADD that if I don't do things as they come to mind then I'll never do them. Has anyone seen my bike lately?

I'm 29 and my parents don't know that I'm as avid a smoker as I am. I don't care if they know...I'm an adult and I'll do what I want. My mom just abhors any kind of tobacco (she kind of flipped out on me when I told her I occasionally smoked a cigar so I'd rather her not know I do several bowls a week). I don't think my dad would care but he has no secrets from mom so it's best to just keep them both in the dark. That being said, I have thought about using the pipe as a bonding experience with dad but then remembered that he used to smoke (never did around me so I don't always think about that). I wouldn't want to temp him with any kind of tobacco. As hard as it is to quit I'm sure he would take me up on it just to have a little bonding time, but I wouldn't want to introduce nic back into his life. That's something else to consider when listening to everyone else telling you to invite him to have a bowl with you. Just my $.02

 

[kamikazesasquatch]

Just finished reading. Sucks that he reacted that way. But, in my opinion, a pipe isn't worth ruining a relationship over. Plus, their house their rules But let me spread a little bit of propaganda I've been smoking an average of about 5 - 10 bowls a week for about a year (minus the first few months when I got to Afghanistan because I didn't bring any pipes with me). I've never felt that I NEEDED a pipe and can go days/weeks/months without one with no problem if I need to. For me, if it ever gets to the point where I feel I need it then that's when I will put it down for a while. I don't inhale other than the occasional French inhale, nor do I really pay that much attention to how much nic is in a tobacco. I just try what I like/what people tell me I'll like. No addiction whatsoever here.

 

[spartan]

My personal experience with pipe tobacco could be compared to sugar. I didn't feel the need to have a pipe for the past 4 days because it's just uncomfortable outside. So I skip the piping and go to bed. It's much like soda at this point. I do admit I'm 100% addicted to the nicotine. It is very calming. And it feels oh so good. But It's just like sugar. I equate nicotine to sugar. We are GENETICALLY WIRED to crave sugar. That shit is hard to kick. And nicotine is no easier.
But rarely will you find a pipe smoker outside in below freezng temps because they NEED to smoke.
BUT TODAY, I have promised a pipe smoking to Bob because he has had quite the ordeal tonight and needs all the luck and hope and favor he can get. So I will smoke a pipe for an hour in the cold. ::
Be honest with your parents, but if you disagree let them KNOW you disagree. They are human and will be wrong now and again just like you will be.
I wish you the best of luck in your future with the mystic tobacco leaf. Fare well brother of the leaf.
"Live Long and Prosper."

 

[ozziepiper]

I know this thread is old but just thought I'd mention that I'm thinking now of just going ahead and smoking my pipes anyway. It's been a few months since I talked to my father about it and I see my Peterson and Savinelli sitting there unused and it just makes me want to pack a bowl and light up. I'm thinking of making it a rare occasion, maybe every couple of months. It won't be happening at home and my parents won't know anything about it hopefully. If they find out, well we'll see what happens, but I'm 20 now and want to make my own decisions. The only problem is sourcing pipe tobacco, all the places around here sell crappy stuff and it would be a distaster if some tobacco I ordered arrived in our mail lol.

 

[jonahtke]

Always be honest with your family. I'm 29, married, and have a son of my own. I still called my mom and discussed with her, my decision to take up the pipe. If they're still supporting you, you have some obligation to live by their rules. Just keep in mind that some day you'll be in their position (may not be tobacco), and you're going to want your kids to respect your wishes as well.

 

[ohin3]

You are a 20 year old adult bro. Your parents don't really have a say over what you do. Sure they can disapprove, they can advise you against, but at 20 years old I can't imagine they have the power to tell you no. I dunno man, my parents had a different strategy when they raised my brother and I. They raised us and raised us very well. But they always sort of let us make our own decisions. I was often told, we don't think you should and this is why, or we do not approve of what you are doing, but they rarely told us no. My parents trusted their parenting skills I guess and let us have our independence. Just sit them down and explain the differences and why you have made your choices and that you understand they do not approve. Every time I had a major issue with my parents not approving of something I would sit them down and have an intelligent, rational conversation about my opinion and point of view on the matter. By the time I was done they seemed feel at ease.