Who Is H.G.P. of Barclay Rex Fame?

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Ducreapa193

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As a New Yorker and Dunhill lover, the "LC" model pipes of Barclay Rex and the supposed ex-Dunhill pipecarver, H.G.P. that worked with them has been an obsession fascination. I have finally sourced a good condition, at least I hope so, Barclay Rex LC... so score for me!!!

But that still leaves me with the questions...Who is H.G.P.? I have a working theory I've concocted after far too coffee and research last night but:

A. Maybe this is a non-issue and someone already knows who Barclay Rex's H.G.P. is?
B. Maybe no one cares but me?
C. If not A or B, perhaps I can get help from the knowledgeable folks here?

For my Dunhill experts in the room: Do you know any french factories or carvers who carved the "LC" shape and supplied them to Dunhill? Were these carvers/factories in Paris?

Thanks Ladies and Gents...
 

SBC

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Also: Shhh...

This has been discussed, if "discussed" at all, only by hints and riddles, faint references and knowing looks, in dark corners on quiet nights. It is a dust-covered volume left on the shelf time out of mind, known by few, pulled out by none. Do not be too hasty to cast light on this secret.
 
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Ducreapa193

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I'd read the Pipedia entry on this before running away with the "Dunhill theory."

I did a little digging and it doesn't add up, and updated the page accordingly.

I've read it quite a few times greeneyes! I'm not looking to make the Barclay Rex LC a Dunhill second...I'm looking for information to support my theory that maybe...it's possible that one of the French carvers who made LC stummels and sold them to Dunhill to stem...might have come to NY by way of Ellis Island...and also sold stummels to Barclay Rex? If that is the case...when one finds the name of a Parisian pipe maker, who according to Ellis Island records made that journey around the time Barclay Rex was working with H.G.P., who also stamped pipes the exact same way your new 1920's Barclay Rex "LC" is stamped... I could be batshit and wasting time but maybe it's worth a look, sir?
 
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greeneyes

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So, around 1919 the pipemaker H. Gerin emigrated to the United States and made briar pipes stamped "H.G.P." that were then sold (and sometimes stamped) by the Barclay Pipe shop? It would be nice to see evidence of "H.G.P." appearing as a trademark in use elsewhere other than in advertising by Barclay Pipes.

Similarly, "H. Gerin of Paris" was in the pipe business with A. Lichtblau in the 1870s, so I think he would have been retirement age by 1919. But the urge to start again anew strikes us all at any age, so it's entirely possible.


 

greeneyes

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H. Gérin in a 1902 French general commerce directory, listed among his contemporaries, including: Gambier, Lichtblau, Sommer, Marechal-Ruchon, Deguingaud, and Delacour (I wonder if Commoy-David is the Comoy family?).

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jguss

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So I know a bit, but far from everything, about the guy in question. Henri Gérin was born on May 31, 1844 in Chalons sur Saôn in eastern France and died in Paris on October 7, 1918. His parents were Claude Gérin and Louisa Avignon; Henri had a number of siblings but I never cared deeply enough to determine if his father or brothers were involved in the pipe business too (for various reasons I doubt it). In any case Gérin migrated northwest to Paris as a young man about 1866 and started appearing in business directories as a pipe maker a few years later. Certainly by 1870 Gérin was listed at blvd de Strasbourg 46; he later moved the business several times, and eventually wound up back on Strasbourg at #39. Gérin's primary focus was manufacturing for the wholesale trade. By 1871 Henri had established a joint venture with Lichtblau at Rue de Lancry 17, while continuing to maintain his own premises under the name H. Gérin on Strasbourg blvd. The partnership with Lichtblau doesn't appear to have lasted very long. By 1876 it disappears from the directory, while Gérin's solo listing continued. Some twenty years later, in 1895 or 1896, Henri formed a second partnership, this one with a man named Fœgly. The venture was styled Gérin (H.) and Fœgly, and located at blvd Magenta 3. This latest partnership lasted a bit over a decade before ending about 1908. By this point Gérin was in his sixties but continued to soldier on for another decade until his death in 1918. Whether his only son, Henri Ferdinand Gérin (1866-1917), was involved in the business or not is unknown to me but in any case moot since he preceded his father in death by some 19 months. Records for Europe from the time of the First World War can be tough to find. What's certain is that the business was still in family hands in 1914 at the start of the war, and that by the end of the war this was no longer the case. In the first directory issued after Gérin's death the 1918 listing shows Gérin (H.) is still in business but at a new location (rue Béranger 19) and under a new owner (A. Mathiss, successeur).

So a few observations. First, assuming that Gérin was responsible for the Barclay pipes we're discussing it's clear that he never emigrated from France to the United States, nor did his son. For that matter both were dead by the time H.G.P. pipes appeared at Barclay in New York anyway. Second, I'm not sure I understand why we need to assume that someone had to emigrate; pipe manufacturers in Europe, just like in America, made private label pipes for tobacconists every day and shipped them all over the world. It was an important part of the pipe and pipe tobacco trade. If these pipes were made by Gérin's former company they would have been made by Mathiss since the founder and his son were busy being dead . I should add that Mathiss stopped using the Gérin name in industry directories about 1924.

Finally, it's far from clear to me that HGP pipes were made by Gérin's former company at all. Yes, I know that the Gérin logo was in an oval (see listing below) but the pipe world is replete with logos using an oval. Sure HGP could stand for something like Henri Gérin of Paris, but it certainly doesn't have too. It seems like an odd choice for a tobacconist to make; why reference a foreign company in an obscure way? Anything is possible but I'd need more evidence than a dubious attribution on a Worthpoint listing pulled from an eBay sale. Is there something more compelling here that I'm missing? Are the pipes even marked made in France?

In any case this is the quick and dirty; enjoy!

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