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Lifer
Oct 6, 2021
1,612
7,602
NE Wisconsin
Look at old pics of men on the street and most of them were pretty slim compared to today’s man. None of these men in the 1920s, 30s, 40s skipped the biscuits, ate only once a day, etc. These people all are dessert on the regular, drank beer whenever they wanted, etc.

I'm open to being on the wrong track, here -- just thinking out loud -- but, I've seen this argument made from old vs. recent beach photos.

And it seems to me that a very possible explanation is that, once upon a time, overweight or otherwise out-of-shape people felt a societal pressure not to denude themselves at the beach.

There are still people in great shape at the beach, just as there were way back when. The difference is that overweight people have been added to the equation. That doesn't mean that overweight people didn't exist back then. It means that they didn't go to the beach, or if they did they certainly didn't pose for photos.

Many don't care anymore. In fact they make it a point of pride. How many girls today flaunt their rolling muffin tops beneath ridiculous crop-tops?

So, it may be that an extremely high percentage of people in the 50s were uber trim and fit, but it also may be that the photographs showed the slice of the population that the era wanted to show.
 
Oct 3, 2021
1,139
5,354
Southeastern PA
No Pasta or potatoes (maybe twice a month)
No red meat.
No sweets.
No fried foods.
No bread unless it’s wheat or rye.
No sodas (unless diet soda)
Walk or run 6 miles a week and your
Back to 20 yrs old in 3-4 months!
That list is painful! No pasta, red meat, sweets, fried food...no bread?!? Well, that'll def drop the pounds, but to keep them off??? FUUUUUUUUUUHHHHHCK THAT! May as well tell people not to breathe. But I'm with you on the exercise 😉.
 

peteguy

Lifer
Jan 19, 2012
1,531
916
Wait a few years and the Ozempic stuff will be at the store in a pill form. Nothing will ever change - to many $$ riding on unhealthy people. They will just find a drug to make more money off of that which curbs your appetite. The yoyo we see now will be nothing to 20 years from now.
 

Sam Gamgee

Part of the Furniture Now
Sep 24, 2022
649
1,696
50
DFW, Texas
I'm open to being on the wrong track, here -- just thinking out loud -- but, I've seen this argument made from old vs. recent beach photos.

And it seems to me that a very possible explanation is that, once upon a time, overweight or otherwise out-of-shape people felt a societal pressure not to denude themselves at the beach.

There are still people in great shape at the beach, just as there were way back when. The difference is that overweight people have been added to the equation. That doesn't mean that overweight people didn't exist back then. It means that they didn't go to the beach, or if they did they certainly didn't pose for photos.

Many don't care anymore. In fact they make it a point of pride. How many girls today flaunt their rolling muffin tops beneath ridiculous crop-tops?

So, it may be that an extremely high percentage of people in the 50s were uber trim and fit, but it also may be that the photographs showed the slice of the population that the era wanted to show.
I don’t doubt that fat people stayed off the beach more back in the day. Hell, this was true in the 80s when I was a kid. The only people who went to the pool in our town were “hot” - everyone else stayed away.

I’m talking more about street scene photos in black and white, the types with men in suits, hats, work shirts, smoking pipes on the sidewalk. In most of these pics there are hardly any fat people. These folks all ate hearty breakfasts, were taught and lived by the old food pyramid system and three squares a day, etc. Burger joints were ubiquitous, fully-sugared soda pop, ice cream shops, lunch counters serving white bread sandwiches - all the stuff that we are supposed to stay away from today. It doesn’t make any sense. The only thing I can figure is that “they” have changed our food and it’s not the same as it once was.
 

warren

Lifer
Sep 13, 2013
12,284
18,266
Foothills of the Chugach Range, AK
My earliest cardiologist advised against dieting to shed pounds. He advised, "Just leave something on the plate."

I find eating fewer calories than I burn keeps the weight, plus or minus five pounds, at my chosen number. Losing fifty pounds over a year's time pretty much insured no hip replacement. Arthritis is, for all intents and purposes, no longer a matter of concern. My wounded heart has done some self-repair and I'm now fairly fit. All, without punishing myself with regards to food. I eat what I want. I simply exert a wee bit of self-control over "how much."
 

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Lifer
Nov 26, 2018
10,186
41,406
RTP, NC. USA
Losing weight is easy. Gaining it back, and keeping it on is hard. Most I weighted was 180 lbs back in HS. I'm 5' 10". Was down to 130 for awhile, then came back to 150 and stayed there. If I don't eat for a day or two, I can get rid of 5 to 10 lbs. Then keep steady diet without over eating to keep that weight. It's all math. But I do understand that some people can't lose weight no matter what.
 

HawkeyeLinus

Lifer
Oct 16, 2020
5,815
42,063
Iowa
Courtesy of COVID two years ago, lost a bunch of weight in about 6 weeks and have managed a bit more. Compared with pre-COVID I’m now down a total of 36 lbs. as of this morning and 5-6 to go and will call it good at +/- 186. Hauled out a nice suit I haven’t worn in 31 years and it still looks timeless and darn it I look great! My 34 waist pants and jeans I was excited to be into the last couple years are now just a hair big, love it.

I’ve kept it off with common sense - mostly portion control, but cut out various high volume and counterproductive snacking options and high fructose corn syrup. Pretty active so exercise for the the sake of exercise hasn’t been part of the equation. Blessed with low cholesterol and good health otherwise so yep, I eat real butter and enjoy all things dairy and red meat, but …….. moderation. Having no appetite or energy or taste buds for months after COVID sort of “adjusted” me. Hate to say it, would never have done it without getting sick, so I’m afraid I’m more cautionary tale than inspiration.

Just learned how to say “no”.
 

HawkeyeLinus

Lifer
Oct 16, 2020
5,815
42,063
Iowa
One factor that hasn't been mentioned is sleep. If you are sleep deprived your body will go into energy preservation mode and you will put on weight. Sufficient sleep of good quality and keeping consistent hours are very important.
Same with drastically reducing caloric intake - slow and steady (absent a health emergency) wins the race!
 

HawkeyeLinus

Lifer
Oct 16, 2020
5,815
42,063
Iowa
I looked into this about a year ago when I wanted to lose about a stone. I bought a book called The Full Diet, which was written by a British NHS doctor and nutritionalist. It was a revelation.

Essentially, assuming you have no other medical conditions which are affecting your metabolism, the secret to losing excess weight and maintaining a healthy and stable weight indefinitely is to control your blood sugar, not count calories or consciously restrict your intake. If your metabolism is healthy your body will do this for your. If your blood is surging with sugar, your gut bacteria is destroyed by artificial chemicals and there is a disconnect in the messaging between your gut and your brain, it can't.

High blood sugar is extremely bad for you, especially for your brain, so your body produces insulin to get rid of it. The insulin can't force it to be excreted or burned up, so it converts the blood sugar into fat cells. These are then deposited around the body as your blood circulates. It dumps it in the easiest places first, which is your liver, then around your vital organs (visceral fat) and lastly around the muscles and under the skin, which is the fat you can see and makes your clothes tight.

If you eat foods which reduce and stabilise your blood sugar your body goes into fat burning mode and you will lose weight rapidly and it will stay off. And you won't feel hungry or have food cravings.
If you merely count calories and those calories come in the form of foods which raise blood sugar, you will continue to gain weight regardless of exercise. And you'll lack energy and constantly feel hungry and miserable.

Basically, cut out all simple (refined) carbohydrates, all refined sugars and all processed food. That means no flour-based foods, so no bread, pasta or any bakery products. And no high-sugar/high starch vegetables like potatoes, parsnips, sweet potatoes, and no refined sugar or high sugar fruits like bananas, pineapples grapes, mangoes or fruit juice (eat moderate-sugar whole fruits, not the processed juice).
And cut out all ultra-process food. So no e-numbers or chemicals. If it didn't walk, swim, fly or grow out of the ground, it isn't real food and you shouldn't eat it. And only natural unprocessed oils and cooking fats, so olive oil, butter, lard, and pure rapeseed oil. Never hydrogenated stuff. And cut out or greatly reduce alcohol consumption, and never drink every day.

I've been eating like this for a year now and the results have been dramatic. I lost the desired stone, I eat at regular times, I never snack and I can tolerate the normal feelings of hunger which tell me when it's time to eat without experiencing food cravings. I never over-eat anymore and I don't have to think about it.

I also follow a regime of only eating between the hours of 10 am and 6 pm. Between those times I eat healthy food in normal quantities and I don't count calories or exclude fat. That means the full range of fruit and vegetables (excluding those mentioned above), all kinds of fresh meat and fish, all whole diary products (never "low-fat" or processed), eggs, all herbs, spices, nuts, pulses and low carb grains like bulgur wheat. Everything freshly prepared.
I never eat anything from a can or packet unless it is made from unprocessed natural products that I could buy from a butcher of a greengrocer. Everything is fresh.

I've found eating fresh is a lot cheaper than processed and doesn't actually take any longer to prepare.

I am lucky though, in that I live alone, so I do the shopping and I control what goes into my fridge and cupboards, and I am the one cooking my food. The difficulty comes when you live with other people or in a family. If you've got teenage kids, good luck keeping processed food out of the house.

But trust me, if you can do it, eat only natural, low carb and sugar foods and only eat within one eight hour window in every 24 and the weight will fall off you.
There was a book and related books touting the “ABs Diet” many years ago and it was the most practical and common sense approach I’ve seen. Have incorporated a lot of its recommendations the past 2+ years to keep the weight off. Never had the willpower before. Just need to “see” the gains and that can be a big push to consistency.
 
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Sam Gamgee

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Sep 24, 2022
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One factor that hasn't been mentioned is sleep. If you are sleep deprived your body will go into energy preservation mode and you will put on weight. Sufficient sleep of good quality and keeping consistent hours are very important.
Thanks for bringing this up as I needed the reminder. I’ve worked an insane amount of hours this year and haven’t slept nearly enough.
 

HawkeyeLinus

Lifer
Oct 16, 2020
5,815
42,063
Iowa
I'm open to being on the wrong track, here -- just thinking out loud -- but, I've seen this argument made from old vs. recent beach photos.

And it seems to me that a very possible explanation is that, once upon a time, overweight or otherwise out-of-shape people felt a societal pressure not to denude themselves at the beach.

There are still people in great shape at the beach, just as there were way back when. The difference is that overweight people have been added to the equation. That doesn't mean that overweight people didn't exist back then. It means that they didn't go to the beach, or if they did they certainly didn't pose for photos.

Many don't care anymore. In fact they make it a point of pride. How many girls today flaunt their rolling muffin tops beneath ridiculous crop-tops?

So, it may be that an extremely high percentage of people in the 50s were uber trim and fit, but it also may be that the photographs showed the slice of the population that the era wanted to show.
60s and 70s can recall all my parents’ friends and honestly there was no general fit and trim back then. Same issues as now but ….. I think lifestyle and other changes the past 20 years in particular have predisposed our youth to more sedentary and fast food and not really having a fighting chance. I’ve had friends the past many years who pretty much had their households living off breakfast snacks and fast food for other meals. I don’t idealize the way previous generations looked because they didn’t look that great, lol. But I still remember the moms of a few of my friends I lusted after in my adolescence, hahaha.
 

AroEnglish

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Jan 7, 2020
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One factor that hasn't been mentioned is sleep. If you are sleep deprived your body will go into energy preservation mode and you will put on weight. Sufficient sleep of good quality and keeping consistent hours are very important.
This is really helpful to know! I probably can’t hang my 30 lbs. solely on this but it is good to know that I need to care for all aspects of my body if I’m going to keep my weight down.
 
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HeavyLeadBelly

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Dec 9, 2023
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Losing weight is easy. Gaining it back, and keeping it on is hard. Most I weighted was 180 lbs back in HS. I'm 5' 10". Was down to 130 for awhile, then came back to 150 and stayed there. If I don't eat for a day or two, I can get rid of 5 to 10 lbs. Then keep steady diet without over eating to keep that weight. It's all math. But I do understand that some people can't lose weight no matter what.
It’s interesting how our bodies work. I sweat a lot to the point when in my 20s I spoke to my dr about it and after running tests said I was fine and that it was better to sweat more than not enough as besides being a method the body used to cool itself, it also is a way to discharge toxins. I had a coworker who didn’t sweat enough and that was an issue. As for weight you can be too thin and that’s an issue too so I hope you’re getting some help! All I know is that usually when I drop weight I’m gaining muscle so I never go by how many pounds I am. At my fittest, when I worked at UPS in my early 20s I still weighed around 215. It was all muscle.

Now in regard to my flat ass nothing I do helps to keep my pants up even with a belt and regardless if I’m thin or fat lol
 
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Green Hill Hermit

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Feb 1, 2023
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I'm open to being on the wrong track, here -- just thinking out loud -- but, I've seen this argument made from old vs. recent beach photos.

And it seems to me that a very possible explanation is that, once upon a time, overweight or otherwise out-of-shape people felt a societal pressure not to denude themselves at the beach.

There are still people in great shape at the beach, just as there were way back when. The difference is that overweight people have been added to the equation. That doesn't mean that overweight people didn't exist back then. It means that they didn't go to the beach, or if they did they certainly didn't pose for photos.

Many don't care anymore. In fact they make it a point of pride. How many girls today flaunt their rolling muffin tops beneath ridiculous crop-tops?

So, it may be that an extremely high percentage of people in the 50s were uber trim and fit, but it also may be that the photographs showed the slice of the population that the era wanted to show.
Pretty sure it was due to the quality of the food back then. No crap=less weight.
 
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