Which Bourbon For A Brit Newbie?

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Chasing Embers

Captain of the Black Frigate
Nov 12, 2014
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Tried a starry gazey pie when I visited the UK back in the '90s. I enjoyed it, but thenagain, I also enjoy sushi. :wink:

 

cranseiron

Part of the Furniture Now
May 17, 2013
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Jay, I had a Cornish pasty when I was in Portsmouth and London last year. Very savory and easy to eat on the train.

 

okiebrad

Starting to Get Obsessed
Feb 13, 2016
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I'm not sure what is available in the UK but here are my thoughts. For the ultimate Bourbon I would have to suggest Pappy Van Winkle family reserve 20 yr. Amazingly sweet with a very long finish. The bartender in Vegas told my brother and I it was the pinnacle of Bourbon's. At over $100 a glass I could not argue.
As for something we all can enjoy, I would suggest W.L. Weller 12 yr. I find it extremely smooth and at the same time a very complex Bourbon. In the US, you can pick up a bottle for about $30.

 

huntertrw

Lifer
Jul 23, 2014
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mawnansmiff:
To help you understand the terminology, here is the Kentucky Distillers' Association's definition of straight Bourbon whiskey, "A whiskey made from a mash containing at least 51 percent corn, distilled out at a maximum of 160° proof, aged at no more than 125° proof for a minimum of two years in new charred oak barrels. If the whiskey is aged for less than four years, its age must be stated on the bottle. No coloring or flavoring may be added to any straight whiskey."
For more information on Bourbon you might check out this link: Kentucky Bourbon Trail.

 

ophiuchus

Lifer
Mar 25, 2016
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You can't go half an hour on a state highway in the Michigan Upper Peninsula without passing a PASTIES sign, though some of the places up there are seasonal. I won't pass through the U.P. without stopping somewhere for a pastie. I've loved the things since I was a kid and the family would drive across the bridges camping; always stopped for a pastie. :mrgreen:

 
Oct 7, 2016
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I maybe have 10 or 12 drinks a year these days, but if I were in your shoes I would start off with Jim Beam. It is a very good basic bourbon, and once you have a handle on it, you are in a position to evaluate some of the others. IMO, sometimes you pay a lot for very little.
+1 on Dickel.

 

pappymac

Lifer
Feb 26, 2015
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Slidell, LA
Jay, it's Crawfish Pie. They are a freshwater crustacean that average aroun 3 to 4 inches in length. They are a delicacy in some parts of the States but in the south they are a common staple that we buy live and boil for parties, parades, weddings, christenings, funerals...or if we are just hungry. Boiled properly you need lots of cold beer.
Do the even sell cornmeal in England?

 

mawnansmiff

Lifer
Oct 14, 2015
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Sunny Cornwall, UK.
"Jay, it's Crawfish Pie."
Pappy, I know it's 'crawfish pie', I was just teasing, it's just in the song it sounds like 'goldfish pie'.
BTW what you call crawfish we call crayfish....pretty much the same beastie :puffy:
As for cornmeal, I've never seen it for sale but then I don't get out much these days.
Regards,
Jay.

 

jpmcwjr

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May 12, 2015
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Well, you should! Cornwall was so named because in the 13th C Truro was under siege by barbarous invaders, and wood was in scarce supply, and the King had decreed stone could be used only for building houses or stables. So, the inventive townspeople took masses of corn meal, wetted it, pressed it into bricks, and built a wall that kept the savages at bay.

 

mso489

Lifer
Feb 21, 2013
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Had an elderly pipe smoking friend who we met when my wife was in rehab after a hip replacement revision. He swore by Evan Williams bourbon, said it was as good as Jack Daniels at a considerably lower price. I don't know about the Jack Daniel's comparison, but it's pretty good.

 

oldreddog

Part of the Furniture Now
Sep 4, 2014
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Did the locals use the cobs for making pipes at all I wonder?

Should the MM cob be called the Cornwall Doombar?

Was the pastie a forerunner of patel de chocolo?

 

mawnansmiff

Lifer
Oct 14, 2015
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"So, the inventive townspeople took masses of corn meal, wetted it, pressed it into bricks, and built a wall that kept the savages at bay." :rofl:
Would those savages be the folks from Camborne and Redruth perhaps? Also, did the pressing of the said cornmeal involve steam or no?
Regards,
Jay.

 

jpmcwjr

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May 12, 2015
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I think they came from Tierra del Fuego, or The Jersey Isles, not sure which. And yes, they had steam jacketed presses that they converted from making plug tobacco to manufacturing corn bricks.

 

troutface

Lifer
Oct 26, 2012
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Best bang for your buck is Buffalo Trace

I agree. Woodford Reserve is a favorite. The Double Oaked version is also very good, but may not be everyone's cup of tea as the oak flavor is not exactly subtle. Makes a great Manhattan though :wink:

 

aam79

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Nov 2, 2016
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my advice would be to skip the wild turkey. Back in high school we called it Kick'n Chicken, you drank it if you were looking to get into a fight LOL.... Knob Creek, and Makers Mark are defiantly a step up in quality for nearly the same price (at least here in the states) I've been trying to get myself to like "whiskeys", but it is taking a while.

 
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