When Is Kentucky Not In Kentucky?

[bnichols23]

Woods, I see like me you're not a mathematician by trade. :twisted:

 

[woodsroad]

I’m a photographer by trade, photojournalist and filmaker by previous employment and education, and a scientist by osmosis and temporary vocation early on in life. Math was never a passion, but I harnessed enough to get done whatever puzzles laid before me. But yeah, I’d rather be in Philadelphia than solving equations.
I know enough to say that John’s figures assume an even distribution, which in and of itself is highly unlikely.

 

[unkleyoda]

"Hand Rubbed"

I know, I'm 12.

 

[sparroa]

Some blenders still call African dark-fired "Kentucky" and I would say that accounts for the foreign content along with some Empire Virginias.
Kendal Kentucky, for instance, contains 100% African dark-fired.

 

[mawnansmiff]

This would explain why I can never detect the Perique in Old Gowrie. Also, I always thought it tasted of dark fired Malawian leaf, rather like many Sam Gawith and Gawith & Hoggarth blends.
Thanks for the entertainment Dan.
Regards,
Jay.

 

[woodsroad]

Jay, did you ever see my juggling/kazoo act?

 

[PaulTheScandinavian]

Maybe I'm wrong but I would think within the EU only blenders which use U.S produced Dark Fired Kentucky are HU Tobacco and Mc Barens, whereas those traditional British producers such as G&H and S&G in all probability are using African grown leaf.

 

[mawnansmiff]

"Jay, did you ever see my juggling/kazoo act?"
No Dan but I imagine it to be hilarious beyond measure
Regards,
Jay.

 

[warren]

Dan: How many kazoos can you get in the air at one time?

 

[crashthegrey]

I've lost all interest in the label and demand kazoo juggling.

 

[woodsroad]

I need to have the proper motivation and atmosphere, but yes, it's rather spectacular performance.

 

[crashthegrey]

I have to imagine "proper motivation" includes alcohol.

 

[woodsroad]

Alcohol consumption is part of the ritual, yes.

 

[mawnansmiff]

"Alcohol consumption is part of the ritual, yes."
Well I'll chip in with a shot of Wood's 100 Navy Rum.......
Regards,
Jay.

 

[woodsroad]

Well I'll chip in with a shot of Wood's 100 Navy Rum.......

What a great brand name....

 

[jaytex1969]

A bit of a tangential inquiry, can anyone describe the taste/smell/burn differences between Kentucky and Malawi dark fired?

 

[woodsroad]

Jay, the tobaccos are somewhat different, but I'm not sure that I can tell you exactly how they are different, since the predominate flavor/aroma is that of the wood that they are smoked with. The African is smoked with some kind of wood that we don't have here in the US. Burn characteristics are similar. So, it just tastes different in a way that meat smoked with apple is different than meat smoked with hickory. I like both, and have bought both in whole leaf form to use in blends. Both types will gum up a leaf cutting machine pretty quickly, too!

 

[cosmicfolklore]

When I see seed stock for sale, I know that I can buy and grow Kentucky Burley, and the details for how to fire cure is available in many places online and in print.

I have no idea whether DF Kentucky is actually produced commercially outside of Kentucky, but I do know that the lines between Kentucky and Tennessee farmland is vague. But, are you absolutely sure DF Kentucky is not produced outside of Kentucky or the US?

Virginias are grown worldwide, with very little actually being grown in Virginia, comparatively. Maryland is not just really grown in Maryland. These are where the strains were developed, but not limited to just where they are grown. So, it wouldn't surprise me if DFK were being grown elsewhere, but I have no idea whether it is or not. Just posting out of curiosity.

 

[jaytex1969]

Thanks, Dan. This may inspire an eventual side by side comparison event.
So, unlike the Syrian vs. Cyprian Latakia, where the leaves themselves are quite different also, this is a difference in strictly processing (smoking). I imagine even the same genetic leaf grown in two different soils impacts the outcome.
As usual, endless variables. Makes for endless blend outcomes. No complaints here!

 

[woodsroad]

Jay, I will look around and see if I still have some of the African Dark Fired. I did have a few pounds at one time. If I can find it, I'll send you some of both.