What Will Be The Most Sought-After Sutliff Blends 5 Years From Now?

[Brad H]

It was Annie Cake and Marble Cake both. It was bought at about this time last year. Before that, the blend barely had a tin note and smelled like bread cooking when smoked.
Whether yours is like that, might depend on if wherever you bought yours had the older stock or this new stinky stuff.

when I got home, I did revisit the bag notes of the anniversary cake and marble cake. Mine did not smell bad at all. These also were fresh batches from about a month ago or so. How fresh they are I dunno, but purchased about a month ago.

 

[krizzose]

Per one of his recent interviews, he’s doing a couple of new flakes for Glendora, which is a Turkish company. I have no idea if there would be any US distribution of those blends

I’m an idiot. GLADORA

 

[krizzose]

Hearth and Homes Marble Cake and Anniversary Cake turned to shit a few years ago. These used to be my favorite, and I still have a little cellared away. But, about this time last year, I ordered a pound more of each, and they smelled like actual cowshit. No kidding. I had to throw them away, because my wife kept complaining about the smell in my tobacco room. She said it smelled like I had brought a wheelbarrow full of shit into there.

Whatever that base tobacco was that they used in those blends ran out, and they turned to some foul stuff as a replacement. I am not sure anyone could stomach smoking the new blends of that shit.

What’s your guess on the year the original components ran out? Most of my stash is from 2016-2018

 

[sablebrush52]

What’s your guess on the year the original components ran out? Most of my stash is from 2016-2018

You should be OK. The subbing and general downhill slide seems to have begun around 2018, from what I've experienced, with the subbing of Perique with DFK. I stopped buying, with a few exceptions, about 2020, but the blends from GH&Co continue to be pretty good, with variations. The HU blends I bought in 2019 were disappointing. The few blends I've since bought, most recently from MacBaren, are almost unrecognizable. The Cringle flakes, a few of the Sutliff matches, and the KBV offerings were fine, as were the few C&D blends that I like.

 

[cosmicfolklore]

What’s your guess on the year the original components ran out? Most of my stash is from 2016-2018

I defer to Sable. I was just taken by surprise by the quality and smell. If you didn’t notice the stank, you’re probably ok. It was unmistakable.

 

[sfduke]

Miss 5100 Red Cake when McClelland closed.

5100 still highly sought-after even when Sutliff found a stash in the warehouse and tinned them for fundraising at the 2023 Richmond show.

Sutliff 515RC and TS1R are my two picks that will be sadly missed when production stops completely.

 

[krizzose]

I defer to Sable. I was just taken by surprise by the quality and smell. If you didn’t notice the stank, you’re probably ok. It was unmistakable.

Now that it’s gone, I don’t mind saying out loud that I thought Marble Kake was almost criminally underrated. Just a fantastic, if simple, Virginia

 

[cosmicfolklore]

Now that it’s gone, I don’t mind saying out loud that I thought Marble Kake was almost criminally underrated. Just a fantastic, if simple, Virginia

Both Marble Cake and Annie Cake were fantastic. When Russ created that blend, I remember him saying that the red Virginias he used were a rare one-of, by McClelland if I remember correctly, processed by Sutliff. It was never really going to be an inexhaustible source for those.

 

[LotusEater]

Same. I’d never heard of it until all the craziness started. By the time I looked into it, it was gone. Maybe they will release a bit more before the end.

I bought a pound of Match Walnut (among other things) from Pipes and Cigars last night.

 

[LotusEater]

Both Marble Cake and Annie Cake were fantastic. When Russ created that blend, I remember him saying that the red Virginias he used were a rare one-of, by McClelland if I remember correctly, processed by Sutliff. It was never really going to be an inexhaustible source for those.

I hope the current version of Anniversary Cake is good - I just bought a pound.

 

[cosmicfolklore]

I hope the current version of Anniversary Cake is good - I just bought a pound.

Good luck

 

[Elric]

Hearth and Homes Marble Cake and Anniversary Cake turned to shit a few years ago. These used to be my favorite, and I still have a little cellared away. But, about this time last year, I ordered a pound more of each, and they smelled like actual cowshit. No kidding. I had to throw them away, because my wife kept complaining about the smell in my tobacco room. She said it smelled like I had brought a wheelbarrow full of shit into there.

Whatever that base tobacco was that they used in those blends ran out, and they turned to some foul stuff as a replacement. I am not sure anyone could stomach smoking the new blends of that shit.

Most of the Hearth & Home blends I tried were back before they offered tins.
-Distinguished Penguin
-Anniversary Kake
-Marble Kake
-Capitol Stairs
-Frenchy's SunzaBitches
and a few others. The kakes were certainly awesome then. I felt like I was pushed down the Capital Stairs.

 

[Elric]

Good luck

That was well said.

 

[LotusEater]

That was well said.

For the price it was worth a roll of the dice. But to be honest I didn’t realize the quality had dropped off so significantly

 

[sablebrush52]

I used to love Anni cake, but I haven't smoked any in 7-8 years. I do have an 8oz tin from 2013. One of these days I'll have to give it a visit.

 

[sablebrush52]

Might not take 5 years to figure this one out.

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[AcesAndEights]

Might not take 5 years to figure this one out.

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This one blew my mind. TP and CoJ were giving the 2023 tins away for $5 a pop six months ago.

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[buroak]

I totally understand your concern. But as you pointed out, this thread is meant for fun, though, and since I named the three I think will be sought after, I kind of limited myself from purchasing any more, too. All three were sold out on Smoking Pipes last time I checked. None will ever reach Frog Morton status, so none of these are a likely a path for anyone to retire on.

I think an interesting option might be to grab of a few of the Cup O Joe’s marked anniversary tins from their site as possible neat tins to display in the tobacco cabinet 10 years from now. I believe the Bradley Stuff N Things video mentioned COJ.

Funny that you say “Frog Morton status.” Frog Morton blends were some of the last SP sold out of after McClelland shuttered. It was around for weeks if not months after nearly everything else was gone. People do so elevate the value of what they can’t have, from tobacco to (mistakenly) Twinkies.

 

[buroak]

This one blew my mind. TP and CoJ were giving the 2023 tins away for $5 a pop six months ago.

Auction #73412 [Little Red] | TinBids.com

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I got in on that deal. I guess I’ll have to recalculate my net worth.

 

[coming to_falling too]

Might not take 5 years to figure this one out.

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455 bucks, that's nuts. And sure to rise before the auction ends.