What Is With These Esoterica Prices?

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apparently real. People are morons.

@BROBS and I bet that pretentious stick wouldn’t taste any better than my Liga T52s. What a pile of horse ?.?️

 

[BROBS]

@BROBS and I bet that pretentious stick wouldn’t taste any better than my Liga T52s. What a pile of horse ?.?️

Ummm it’s delivered by a white-gloved courier.....

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[gervais]

That sort of thinking causes many to overlook really good blends. Have you heard the teeth gnashing over the lost Daughters and Ryan blends? A company that many condemned as RYO tobacco for years until it was gone. Other than last bomb English blends and some of Esoterica's offerings, I've not come across a tobacco that wasn't decent in one way or another in thirty years.

Couldn't agree more here. Almost everything has something good about it.

 

[sablebrush52]

100% guess I'm just shocked people out here paying $120 for 50g of Blackwoods Flake or something, like seriously?

I'm not happy about gouging. My personal sentiments lean in a more egalitarian direction. And truthfully it's not a good example of a free market as there are many agents working at various levels to manipulate supply. "Free market" is a popular mythical dog whistle. But it is an open market, where anyone capable of participating can do so.

To the extent that this is a problem, it's a self inflicted one. No one is being forced to pay these prices, they're choosing to pay these prices. They can decide not to engage, and find other sources of supply, or different blends to smoke.

 

[jpmcwjr]

Consider this: If you had net disposable income of over $50,000/month, just as I ....................................... do not, you'd not blink an eye at any of the above pipe tobacco prices. You'd have your butler all over those gems.....

 

[cosmicfolklore]

Why buy the cow if you get the shit for free?

 

[sablebrush52]

Couldn't agree more here. Almost everything has something good about it.

Oh...then clearly you haven't smoked any Holly's Non Plus Ultra. There is absolute evil in the world.

 

[kcghost]

What people will spend on tobacco is a personal call and should not belittled by us mere mortals. If a tobacco costs more than you can afford to pay buy another one. This isn't hard.

 

[jpmcwjr]

Perhaps Holly's would do better if there were even more redundancy in their blend name....?!?


"Holly's Best Non Plus Super Ultra Organic Curated Blend"

 

[BROBS]

I totally understand OP’s point. ?

A rare or discontinued or well aged blend is worth a premium... something readily available periodically is not as much. Not that kind of premium.

 

[foursidedtriangle]

Eso and rip off have been tied together for a long time. For that reason they are one of my least favourite brands

 

[gervais]

Oh...then clearly you haven't smoke any Holly's Non Plus Ultra. These is absolute evil in the world.

Lol, no I have not tried that one

 

[sablebrush52]

Consider this: If you had net disposable income of over $50,000/month, just as I ....................................... do not, you'd not blink an eye at any of the above pipe tobacco prices. You'd have your butler all over those gems.....

I probably wouldn't be as concerned about the price, but frankly, I wouldn't piss away the money on crap like this in the first place. Maybe it's something that got instilled in me by my parents, who never forgot the shit they had to endure to survive during the Great Depression. They were always very careful about money, even after they didn't need to be so vigilant.

Generally speaking, people of means get there by being very careful with their money, the cheap bastids!

 

[cosmicfolklore]

@BROBS and I bet that pretentious stick wouldn’t taste any better than my Liga T52s. What a pile of horse ?.?️

It's not about tasting better, but tasting more rare.

I've had the pleasure of being at the sommelier when they were doing a tasting of a rare 100 year rare old wine. We paid $100 to get a tasting glass of the aged rare wine once, ehhhh, maybe a tablespoons worth. It tasted like a melon rind smells after being in the garbage for a few weeks, and the alcohol has all but completely dissipated at that age. Yes, the older a wine is, the less alcohol that remains.
I wasn't personally impressed, but some others went home with a few dirty bottle of the stuff. When I asked them what they loved about it, it was more about the rarity of the taste, not that it tastes better.
People don't drink a 100 year old wine with dinner or to get a buzz on, they share it with friends for a shared experience.

I mean, why diss people with what they do with their money? Some people spend a thousand bucks on ammo just to go make a big noise at the firing range. Some people spend a thousand just to go fishing for a day at the beach, not really caring whether they catch anything. Some people will spend that much just to sleep one night at a resort. I mean... if I wanted to drop a grand on pair of socks, do you think I'd care what some poor people thought of me? Lions never fret over the opinions of sheep.

 

[sablebrush52]

Perhaps Holly's would do better if there were even more redundancy in their blend name....?!?


"Holly's Best Non Plus Super Ultra Organic Curated Blend"

Available at $3275 a turd tin. Works for me.

 

[cosmicfolklore]

Generally speaking, people of means get there by being very careful with their money, the cheap bastids!

I've had a customer that has told me that their accountant had gotten onto them for being too frugal, not spending enough on personal things instead of business purchases can make their taxes be unnecessarily higher... or something along those lines. I don't understand it, but it is something I've heard more than once. So, this woman took my wife and kids shopping for way over priced stuff. I'm not going to complain. But, it could be that those who live off of CD's with accountants giving them this sort of advice... are good people to know, ha ha.

There are those who are rich, and then there are those who are really wealthy. Personally, I don't think money makes people happier, in my experience. But... I'm not going to diss them.

 

[JOHN72]

Personal decision,

It's not about tasting better, but tasting more rare.

I've had the pleasure of being at the sommelier when they were doing a tasting of a rare 100 year rare old wine. We paid $100 to get a tasting glass of the aged rare wine once, ehhhh, maybe a tablespoons worth. It tasted like a melon rind smells after being in the garbage for a few weeks, and the alcohol has all but completely dissipated at that age. Yes, the older a wine is, the less alcohol that remains.
I wasn't personally impressed, but some others went home with a few dirty bottle of the stuff. When I asked them what they loved about it, it was more about the rarity of the taste, not that it tastes better.
People don't drink a 100 year old wine with dinner or to get a buzz on, they share it with friends for a shared experience.

I mean, why diss people with what they do with their money? Some people spend a thousand bucks on ammo just to go make a big noise at the firing range. Some people spend a thousand just to go fishing for a day at the beach, not really caring whether they catch anything. Some people will spend that much just to sleep one night at a resort. I mean... if I wanted to drop a grand on pair of socks, do you think I'd care what some poor people thought of me? Lions never fret over the opinions of sheep.

Consider this: If you had net disposable income of over $50,000/month, just as I ....................................... do not, you'd not blink an eye at any of the above pipe tobacco prices. You'd have your butler all over those gems.....

Personal decision,yes,It's very respectable...............But the cow gives milk and meat.............and dung...........

 

[BROBS]

I probably wouldn't be as concerned about the price, but frankly, I wouldn't piss away the money on crap like this in the first place. Maybe it's something that got instilled in me by my parents, who never forgot the shit they had to endure to survive during the Great Depression. They were always very careful about money, even after they didn't need to be so vigilant.

Generally speaking, people of means get there by being very careful with their money, the cheap bastids!

It’s true.. my grandfather when still with us (born 1911) spent next to zero but could have afforded anything he desired.

 

[cosmicfolklore]

It’s true.. my grandfather when still with us (born 1911) spent next to zero but could have afforded anything he desired.

Yeh, I have someone in my family that has over a thousand acres of land, a bajillion cows, and billions of dollars in uncut timber, yet they live like they're dirt poor. And, you can't even convince them that they can afford a new car.

 

[FurCoat]

I attribute the consignment prices to impatience and a cultural shift to instant gratification. Some are willing to pay in order to not have to wait. I myself have been patient and have yet to pay over $13 a tin and $36 a bag for any Eso blend. There is a B&M close to me that has Eso in stock. The same tins have sat in their establishment for over a year because at $25 a tin, no one is biting. I think that Eso is reasonably priced in the market, especially when compared to the last drop of G&H. My prediction is that G&H will be released in the same frequency as Eso thus creating the same vacuum (marketing...marketing...marketing) and that by this time next year, once our supplies are low and we need a fix, we will be thrashing about in disgust with G&H. I think it has been said before in relation to hard to find blends, "be patient, one day it will just fall in your lap".